Tempers flare on second day of hearings

An angry ratepayer walked out, and the confrontational style of others, angered councillors, as the heat in submissions rose during the second day of the Dunedin City Council annual plan hearings yesterday.

The subject of many of yesterday's submissions remained the same as Monday, returning again and again to thorny issues including the contentious Lovelock Ave realignment and changes to the way some rural properties and bed and breakfast establishments were rated.

However, after a relatively calm start to the three-day hearing on Monday, the tone of many of yesterday's submissions featured a noticeable return to a more confrontational style from some submitters.

Dunedin man Phillip Day walked out moments after confronting councillors over shambolic changes to city parking introduced last year, saying he had not been consulted, before cutting his submission short and leaving.

Geraldine Tait, of Waitati, caused anger after criticising perceived council inaction over the development of a South Dunedin library.

She claimed "definite plans" for a South Dunedin library in 2007 had been replaced by a "suspicious silence" among councillors this year, as a plan to relocate the central library from Moray Pl to the former Chief Post Office building was considered.

"Is this the case of the mysterious disappearing library?"Personally, I smell a very large rat," she told councillors.

Testy exchanges followed after Ms Tait asked councillors to respond to her concerns.

Cr Bill Acklin pointed out rules meant councillors could only ask questions, not debate submitters' opinions, to which Ms Tait retorted: "I will just let you contemplate that late at night, with your conscience."

That prompted an interjection from Cr Fliss Butcher, who asked Mayor Peter Chin: "Why do we have to sit here and be browbeaten year after year by this submitter? It's just rudeness."

Mr Chin allowed Ms Tait to continue, despite her submission running over time, but the tone continued when submitter Arthur Heenan accused the council of being "dishonest" in changing his property's rating classification from farmland to residential.

"For the DCC, or any other agency, to designate our farm as anything other than farmland is totally dishonest, and they would have no moral or legal right to do so," he declared.

And the elected representatives even sparred with themselves, when Mr Chin prevented Cr Michael Guest from debating a point with a submitter concerned about the Lovelock Ave realignment.

Cr Guest protested he was only attempting to clarify points of fact: "Why don't you allow us to get to that stage, and then I will shut up?" Cr Guest asked Mr Chin.

"No, I would rather shut you up now," Mr Chin replied.

Councillors sitting for 21 hours over two days have now heard from 127 submitters.

The submissions conclude today.

chris.morris@odt.co.nz

South Dunedin

I believe Ms Tait runs a social services agency for the elderly in South Dunedin.

Not just rate payers contribute to rates - renters do so too through their rents and should be treated the same - that's why we let them vote in local body elections.

Libraries

May I ask what is a Library in South Dunedin has to do with Waitati?? I live in South Dunedin and if it is to located in the old PO ,then go for it. This is a fantastic idea. Anyway most people who do use libraries are not rate payers anyway, so libraries need to learn to pay their way too.

Why do they sit there...

... and in fact work terribly hard to get chosen by the ratepayers i.e. elected?
It is time for those who begrudge the less enjoyable aspects of the job to ponder on two little words: "heat" and "kitchen".

Council 'rules' ?

Would Councillor Bill Acklin please quote in full the specific "rule" that, "meant councillors could only ask questions, not debate submitters' opinions." Please, please, please.

DCC

I'm not disputing that Cr Butcher is an elected representative and therefore a 'servant of the people,' but aren't all people entitled to be spoken to with respect? Ms Tait is herself an elected representative (Waikouaiti Coast Community Board) and should be well aware of council's various codes of conduct, particularly those relating to the behaviour of elected representatives. Public servant does not equal public whipping person.

Persistance

Bravo, Ms Tait, for going back and reminding the council of things they seem to have forgotten. Sometimes I think the council hopes that if they don't talk about things they don't like they'll go a way - it's a bit like a child putting their fingers in their ears and going "nyah nyah nyah, I can't hear you".

It's up to the citizens to keep their elected representatives on their toes and to remind them when they stop "representing" - we get so few opportunities to do so.
Having just one chance a year to make presentations and in a format where we can't actually question the councilors seems a bit too easy on the councilors to me - being accountable means actually answering questions, not just listening to them.

It's election year - time to replace councilors who ignore their constituents with ones who will listen, and respond. I hope that the first thing that the new council does is to bring back the public part of council meetings so that we have MORE rather than fewer chances to put the council on the spot and ask them about the way that the city is run.

Servants of the people

"Why do we have to sit here and be browbeaten year after year by this submitter? It's just rudeness."  - Cr Fliss Butcher.

Unfortunately for the people, Cr Butcher has forgotten that she is 'a servant of the people.' Mrs Tait is not her servant.
It is Mrs Tait's right to voice her opinions and be heard by councillors.

Councillors are no different to Members of Parliament. In light of the Gordon Brown debacle, perhaps Cr Butcher needs to make a personal apology to Mrs Tait.

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