'Fan zone' planned for Octagon

Debra Simes
Debra Simes
Dunedin's Rugby World Cup "fan zone" is likely to be an on-again, off-again party.

Dunedin City Council marketing and communications agency manager Debra Simes told the Otago Daily Times it was "unlikely" a permanent fan zone would be in place in the Octagon for the duration of next year's tournament.

Instead, easily assembled structures would be used to quickly set up and dismantle the fan zone as required.

"It's unlikely we will have the funding to set the Octagon up for the duration of the Cup.

"It's just too long for us," she said.

The council had a $200,000 budget for tournament festivities, including turning the Octagon into a focal point for fans, and aimed to cater for drinkers and families wanting to watch the match on big screens, she said.

However, the council's efforts were being compared with smaller regional centres such as Nelson, also hosting pool matches, rather than Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch, she said.

Those cities would together host the bulk of the tournament's heavyweight teams and matches including the quarterfinals, semifinals and final.

"That does put them into another league in terms of the numbers of people that will be coming into their cities.

"We are certainly aware of what Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch are doing, but at this point we are round about the same point in our planning as other regions who have got pool matches," she said.

Practical issues, such as the positioning of outdoor screens and sight lines, were still to be resolved, and retailers and other groups - including transport operators using the Octagon - to be consulted, she said.

That meant plans were not expected to be finalised until September, she said.

Speaking at last week's council economic development committee meeting, Ms Simes had said two alternative routes for spectators wanting to walk to the stadium were still being considered, assuming Forsyth Barr Stadium was the venue.

One route would take spectators down lower Stuart St and along Anzac Ave to the stadium, while the other would take the crowds along George St and down Albany St, she said.

However, concern has already been expressed about council preparations for the tournament.

During last week's meeting, councillors briefly discussed a letter sent to the council by a member of the public, expressing concern at the Octagon experience during last month's All Blacks versus Wales rugby test.

Cr Fliss Butcher expressed alarm at its contents, but the debate was curtailed before details were divulged - at council chief executive Jim Harland's recommendation - until it could be discussed with bar owners.

Bar owners contacted by the ODT had mixed views, with Alibi Bar and Restaurant manager Brad Bosselman saying he and other owners were concerned at the lack of detailed council plans for the Octagon.

"They need to get something planned as soon as possible so everyone knows.

"We don't know what we can do with our outdoor areas yet.

"I know it's a year away, but that's not far away."

Mr Bosselman said the layout of the Octagon during last month's Wales rugby test had been "absolutely Mickey Mouse", with security barriers turning the area into "a sheep pen", and that the council's $200,000 budget should be increased.

However, Lower Octagon Licensed Forum spokesman John MacDonald - representing Octagon bar owners - said no concerns had been brought to his group's attention.

"I certainly have no concerns at all with the Welsh test. I thought the Octagon went well."

Bar owners had "no influence" over council plans, but forum member and Octagon bar owner Grant Ellis had been invited by the council to sit on its tournament planning committee, which had met several times, Mr MacDonald said.

"The time is approaching, but the council have an obligation to provide a fan zone.

"Until we know some details it's hard to form an opinion."

That said, with a small army of travelling English rugby supporters expected to follow their team to New Zealand, and Dunedin hosting one of the team's matches, it was important plans were in place, he believed.

"They are coming . . . we have to start thinking about how we are going to cater for them."

DDD

Funkie, you are a winner.
There is life out there... there is someone who doesn't want to Dumb Dunedin Down.

Same bars crying poor?

Excuse me, but wasn't it these same Octagon bars that were complaining only a few weeks ago about the miniscule extra DCC charge on their outdoor tables?

What sort of fan-zone?

What sort of fan-zone will be required, I wonder, to host the pathetic, inconsequential dross Dunedin has been grudgingly allocated in the way of pool games? Is, for example, the capital of Georgia going to empty out and the Octagon be overrun by sabre dancers? I doubt it, somehow, but it will make our city centre a magnet for the local inebriates, and particularly, those out to cause disorder.

It's easy enough to be attacked after dark in George Street as it is, without this extra incentive for those of criminal intent, or boozed out of what little brain they had to start with.

Name the date

I believe the date you're looking for is October the 9th - that's the day we get to vote out the councilors responsible for the financial disaster that your stadium has become.

TANSTAAFL (or coffee)

My suggestion

In line with the aquatic theme being followed in Auckland, I propose that White Island be used as Dunedin's "fan zone".

About the right size, and suitably adorned with guano.

It's only you who know that Mike

Like everything else you predict- disaster. I wonder if you can give the date for the end of the world? Maybe the rest of the DDD (Dunedin Doomsday Department) may know? Pick a number, just like the rest of the numbers you seem to conjure up. Go the Stadium. Free coffee for all.

And if that happens

There's always Logan Park, Bathgate, or ForBarr if it is ready for people - just not games.

It's a little like Auckland - they are so determined to have a "party central" on the waterfront (booze + waterfront + water = disaster IMHO), that they are blinded by the other possiblities: eg: Vector Arena with giant screens, or The Domain (they fit 200,000 people in there for Christmas in the Park).

If you create a "festival" type area, it's only going to attract more people, and if it's available with the obligatory bouncy castles, ferris wheels, hot dog stands etc it extends it's reach to more than just the rugby nuts or party people.

Well, except ....

Well, except that we all know that given the current state of the stadium project the RWC games are probably going to be held at Carisbrook

Carisbrook

I can't see why Carisbrook can't be used as a fanzone. An entrance fee could be charged, and there could be entertainment on the ground and big screens.

With a game on at ForBarr stadium, those that want to have some atmosphere and can't get tickets to the games could rock up to the Brook.

And it could stay set up for all the round-robin and finals action.
At least this would be more family friendly than the Octagon which - lets be honest - is more suited to getting on the turps than providing something a little more uniquely Dunedin.

Open your wallets (again)

$200,000 and that's not going to be enough - this stadium is the gift that just keeps on taking and taking.

Why is the city spending this sort of money for the bars and restaurants in the Octagon? Since they'rethe ones who will be making all the money from the fans, surely they should be paying for the cost of closing parts of the city to the citizens, rather than the citizens who are being inconvenienced?

If we can't get the bars to pay, how about charging an entrance fee to cover costs?

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