High times at Stadium on cards

Photo by Stephen Jaquiery.Fans of Forsyth Barr Stadium could soon be offered a new view of the venue from on top of the roof.

Dunedin Venues Management Ltd chief executive Darren Burden, taking in the view yesterday, confirmed this week he was keen to progress ''thrill-seeker'' opportunities at the stadium, giving those with an interest a new perspective on the venue.

He planned to start by introducing a more extensive tour of the venue in time for the 2013-14 financial year, beginning on July 1.

He would also investigate whether the tour could include allowing the public to walk across the gantry suspended from the top of the venue's south stand, which offered a bird's-eye view of the playing surface below.

However, to cater to the more adventurous, Mr Burden also wanted to explore two more hair-raising options - a walk across the top of the venue's plastic roof, and a flying fox ride running diagonally above the playing surface, from one corner of the venue to the other.

The roof walk would be ''a little bit more extreme'', but would be similar to bridge walks on offer in Sydney and Auckland, he said.

The flying fox might also be an option inside the venue, stretching from one corner of the stadium to the other to give the longest run, he said.

Some of the ideas, including the roof walk, were raised when a council plea for suggestions on how best to improve the stadium generated 487 responses.

Mr Burden said yesterday the more extreme options had yet to be investigated in any detail, and might prove impossible to implement, but he was keen to explore them.

''If you talk to people about it, sometimes their eyes light up ... I think there would be a level of demand for those types of things,'' he said.

You be a hypocrite then

@GW_Scam: Ive been against the stadium from the start and will not change my stance, ever. You be a hypocrite if you wish. I will not be a turncoat and roll over now that it's turned into the lemon we knew it would.

The only way we will get to the truth of this mess and receive any form of accountability is for it to fail, so here's hoping it does

An obscured truth ?

Since well before the Stadium was built, there has been a huge number of letters written on-line, street protest marches, Councill and Mayoral comments, all either for or against the project, but no independent un-biased analysis of what was potentially possible versus what we have now. Nearly all comments take a strong stance either for or against the whole project but nowhere is there a dispassionate review of facts.

Even the expected whole project cost has been deliberately obscured by Council so it is near impossible to see what the true total cost will be. What would be really informative would be a post-project review by the same independent consultants who wrote the pre-construction reports that covered the possible alternatives including rebuilding Carisbrook. I am heartily sick of reading the current weird on-line comments either for or against the stadium with no actual facts.      

Wrong in all aspects

Speed, you may be surprised to know that I was not for the stadium.  Though I can say I was 'wowed' by the idea in principle, it wasn't hard to work out only spending half the amount the stadium cost on fixing up Carisbrook would have been the better option.

You also seem to think because you were 'right' about the stadium being a, shall we say - 'difficult' asset to live with, means you can now belittle any attempt to help ease the burden.  Wrong again, it just shows stubborness and arrogance really.

I don't really see the point in debating these points any more.  It is obvious to anyone unbiased that the only hope we have is for every citizen in Dunedin to get behind pushing the stadium, and doing anything different is just cutting your nose off despite your face.

Oh and as for me coming up with ideas, I could guarantee I could come up with ten ideas that would turn the stadium finances around within 18 months - but you honestly think the council or 'whinging parade' is willing to go with 'ideas', I don't think so. 

 

Doing what we can

GW_Scam says, "How about changing from a mindset of 'the stadium will never make a profit', to one of 'let's all do what we can to get the stadium making a profit'."  A nice idea that has been frequently expressed, always alas lacking in specifics so I hope this time an answer to my questions will be forthcoming from GW_Scam.  

"Let's all do what we can" sounds like that means everyone in Dunedin but maybe it means the management of the stadium.  If the latter, what are their failings, what more should they be doing to attract money-earning events where the income is greater than the costs?  If the former, what should all of us actually do?  What actions could we perform that would result in the stadium making a profit, given that some of us can seldom afford to go to entertainment, even a movie being a treat.  But even those who are well-off, should they go to events in the stadium, paying full price for admission, when the events do not appeal to them?  This, if it is what is meant, is weird, even from a stadium supporter.

Am I bovvered?

'Antiitus' willl be in the DSM then. Wonder away, but don't speculate people are depressed because they do'nt share your opinion. Those fellas use satire, litotes, bathos to support their argument: they are vicious. I am not entirely opposed to the creative flights of the Stadium bod. At least he's an enthusiast.

Doing what we can

GW_Scam says, "How about changing from a mindset of 'the stadium will never make a profit', to one of 'let's all do what we can to get the stadium making a profit'."  A nice idea that has been frequently expressed, always alas lacking in specifics so I hope this time an answer to my questions will be forthcoming from GW_Scam.  

"Let's all do what we can" sounds like that means everyone in Dunedin but maybe it means the management of the stadium.  If the latter, what are their failings, what more should they be doing to attract money-earning events where the income is greater than the costs?  If the former, what should all of us actually do?  What actions could we perform that would result in the stadium making a profit, given that some of us can seldom afford to go to entertainment, even a movie being a treat.  But even those who are well-off, should they go to events in the stadium, paying full price for admission, when the events do not appeal to them?  This, if it is what is meant, is weird, even from a stadium supporter.

I enjoy my nightmare

It gives me purpose to remind you all of the realities of this mess that was imposed on the people of Dunedin by the few that wanted fame and naming rights. I am a realist and my views reflect that. Your so called negative results are now being reflected in the operating results of the stadium.

All those that were initially opposed to the stadium have been resoundingly proven right and now those of you that wanted it for whatever reason, now expect us to roll over and help out? Changing our mindset will make no difference , it will still never make a profit. That's the reality of it. If you wish to call it defeatist and negative to make you feel better, tha'ts your choice. To the rest of us, we knew better, right from the onset

Keep living your self imposed nightmare

Speed - I like being realistic, but I also always try and set my goals as positive ones, rather than always be a defeatest and only ever be happy when my negativity proves to reap negative results.

How about changing from a mindset of 'the stadium will never make a profit', to one of 'let's all do what we can to get the stadium making a profit'.  

I have to wonder about the day to day lives of some of those who comment on here who almost only ever make negative remarks, must be sort of depressing I am guessing? 

Joke of the day

@gwscam: "Stadium starts making a good profit"  That will never happen until it's been paid for and even then, it's unlikely.

Carisbrook had been paid for. Was it running at a profit? I think not.

Keep living in ya dream. 

Pie in the sky

Not that I care but roof walking and a flying fox, really? Sounds like Burden is making his position look busy.

In the end if the marketing research data is positive about these activities and the projected cashflow meets the RvR return and does not breach their risk management structure then good on him.

In the end it's all about the math.

Good on them

Great to see those with positivity and business sense ignoring the 'let's just curl up and die' crowd, as can be seen with the usual commenters already on this article.

Every citizen in this city should be all for any ideas that will make the stadium more financially stable.

Roof walks, extended tours, etc are all great stuff if profitable.  I say bring it on, plus a lot more - just imagine the faces of the whingeing brigade once the stadium starts making a good profit, they will be heart broken they have to find something else to complain about.  I know - maybe a successful new hotel can be their next project to try and bring down?

[Abridged]

High Anxiety

We played this movie game on top of the Millard Stand, based on 'Vertigo' (1958). A man would be Scotty, an accrophobic cop, and his companion had to be Madeleine for a while. It's worth a crack, Nigel.

High Times

I assumed from the headline that Mr Burden had accepted that other suggestion from the community for the use of the stadium ....

Wait for it....

Waiting.... waiting.... and here we go!

 

 

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