A Christchurch bar has sparked outrage after it installed
cameras in its toilets in a bid to catch vandals and increase
Popular music venue Dux Live says it was forced to introduce
the in-toilet security system after a rising vandalism
problem last year.
The cameras have been approved by police and are even
admissible as evidence in criminal courts, bar management
This week, the Lincoln Rd bar posted footage from the cameras
on its Facebook page to try to catch some people they allege
to have done damage in the toilets.
General manager Ross Herrick says he wants to "name and
shame'' bar-goers who were trying to steal framed pictures of
famous musicians from the toilet walls.
He denies it's a breach of privacy, saying: "If you're not
doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about.''
"The installation of all venue cameras was to firstly provide
an safe and enjoyable environment for our guests, staff and
performers and secondly deter those who less appreciate what
we have gone to lengths to provide.''
On Monday, he put up a photo of one alleged offender on the
Dux Live Facebook page which said: "Does anyone know this
clever bugger? We're sick of a***holes trying to trash our
stuff. Please let us know and we'll love you long time.''
The postings have sparked a flurry of comments on the bar's
Facebook page, both positive and negative.
"A serious violation of of patrons rights. A short sighted
and thick move by the bars management,'' one poster wrote.
Another said: "I will no longer enter or recommend the dux...
I do not like the slippery slope you have decided to cross.''
And again: "I do not condone the destruction of property and
I understand your frustration, however cameras in toilets is
unacceptable and destruction of property is sadly just a part
of being in this industry.''
Several were in favour, and one posting summed up those
feelings: "When I go out I go for a good time. I don't break
the law therefore I have nothing to hide from the cameras.
Good on the Dux for caring about staff and patron safety.''
Others questioned legality of the move, which prompted Dux
bosses to respond: "Do you seriously think after 33 years
we'd stupid sought to post illegal stuff, there are signs at
the entrance and inside the males toilets.''
Mr Herrick said signs stating there is '24-hour video
surveillance' are posted at the entrance to the venue, and in
the male toilets.
Today he has erected another sign in the male toilets to
avoid any doubt that there are cameras there.
The bar has four cameras, including the loo-cam which staff
can review on an iPhones app.
Sensitive areas of the footage is blacked out, while the
footage is only reviewed if there has been an issue, Mr
"Only the guilty need be worried and only the perverted mind
would think it possible that the camera's were to be used in
an indecent way,'' he said.
"All of the people claiming they have issues about privacy
and all that... they are on Facebook and so can't care too
much about their privacy.''
While there is only one camera is the male toilets, Dux Live
has legal approval for installation in the female toilets but
are "as yet undecided'' if they go ahead with it.
"Interesting enough the female toilets attract more vandalism
than the males,'' Mr Herrick said.
A spokesman for Christchurch Police said CCTV footage from
businesses can often assist with enquiries into a variety of
incidents, particularly thefts and burglaries.
Police have no record of a complaint being laid with police
in regards to the Dux Live toilet cameras