The sister of murder victim Phil Nisbet wants to meet his
killer, Helen Milner, behind bars.
Lee-Anne Cartier says she wants a face-to-face talk with the
woman dubbed the Black Widow to find out why she fatally
poisoned Mr Nisbet.
"I need to ask her straight out: At what point did she think
it was okay to kill someone?"
Milner, 50, was last month found guilty of murdering Ms
Nisbet, her second husband, in 2009.
She slipped the sedative Phenergan into the 47-year-old
delivery driver's evening meal and, while he was heavily
sedated, suffocated him.
Milner then made his death, on May 4 2009, look like suicide
in the hope of cashing in his $250,000 life insurance policy.
"You hear of women who rip off their husband before a break
up, but to suddenly click it's okay to commit murder? I just
can't get my head around it," says Ms Cartier, 44, who has
been praised by police for her sleuth work in bringing Milner
It was a death that police originally ruled as suicide. It
was only when a coroner raised doubts over his death that a
full homicide probe was launched.
Ms Cartier became sceptical within days of the funeral of
Milner's story that Mr Nisbet killed himself.
From her home in Queensland, she did her own detective work,
supplying information to police, and even ringing work
colleagues of Milner's who told her that she'd often spoken
of "getting rid" of her husband and asked if rat poison would
work. They even nicknamed her the Black Widow.
The High Court trial, which ended just before Christmas has
taken a toll on Mr Nisbet's family, Ms Cartier and Milner's
own sons Adam and Greg, who testified against her.
"Everyone says, 'You won, you won', but it's not a win. You
can never win this. Even if she dies in prison, Phil is dead
and nothing will bring him back.
"All we can do is make sure she doesn't do it to anyone
Ms Cartier says she is desperate to find out how she can get
into prison to see Milner.
"I just want to scream at her," she said.
"I need to know what was she thinking. It's tearing me up
inside, not knowing.
"Was she out one day getting her hair done, or driving down
the road, when she suddenly had an epiphany and thought 'Yep,
that's the best way out - I'll kill Phil'."
"She must have something seriously wrong with her ... I just
need to know why she did it."
Milner will be sentenced on February 20.
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