Norml exposes cops on campus (+ video)

A poster naming undercover police officers who have been working on campus.
A poster naming undercover police officers who have been working on campus.
Police are making no apologies for using undercover officers on the University of Otago campus and say they will continue doing so.

Posters with pictures of plain-clothed officers working on campus and labelled "Narks in our Class?" and "Narkiology 101. How to spot a nark" appeared around the university on Monday.

One poster shows plain-clothed officers involved in the recent arrest of three people at a National Organisation for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (Norml) stand at a Otago University Students Association market day.

The other shows plain-clothed officers at a regular protest "smoke-up" on campus.

The posters name the officers, give their badge numbers and ask people who think there might be an undercover police officer in their class to contact Norml.

Norml leader Abe Gray said he was not sure who had put the posters together and posted them on the Norml website, from where they could be downloaded, but he believed the images were taken from video footage recently posted by Norml members on YouTube.

He said the posters had probably been put together because students felt uncomfortable being under surveillance on campus.

From information police had divulged during various interactions with them, it was believed they were also working undercover in lectures, Mr Gray said.

Dunedin area police commander Inspector Dave Campbell said he was disappointed, but not surprised, photographs of police officers were posted on the Norml website.

Police were running an operation to stop offences against the Misuse of Drugs Act on the university campus and, to date, as a result, had issued nine trespass notices to non-students and three to people enrolled at the university.

Those trespassers included known drug dealers, gang members or associates and one secondary school pupil.

Insp Campbell said trespass notices were issued by police acting as an agent of the university.

The 12 people issued with trespass notices had a total of 26 charges pending before the courts for a variety of drug and other offences.

Plain-clothed and uniformed officers had been used in the operation and a variety of policing methods would continue to be used, Insp Campbell said.

"If people continue to use drugs on campus or incite others to break the law they can expect attention from police."

A university spokesman said no-one was able to comment on plain-clothed officers working on campus until today.

Law and order

The fact that the courts are taking so long to clear serious cases has little or nothing to do with the amount of traffic and drug offences being processed. These time delays are necessary.... and are often requested by the parties, time to prepare a defence which everyone has the right to and time to prepare a watertight case. The last thing we need is rushed cases in which criminals are walking free. I deal with this on a day to day basis... time is necessary, let's just hope when national gets in they tighting up bail and remand systems and crack down on cannabis

Time being wasted

And while all this is happening and police are wasting their time, and courts are getting cluttered by crappy cases, rapes and murders are happening and no wonder trials take years to complete.

Spot on

Thats right Lucy. With the sheer number of Kiwi's who use cannabis as their recreational drug of choice it would be a huge boon to the national economy if the millions of dollars spent on cannabis, which are currently being poured into the black market were taxed like regular transactions.

Tax dollars and cannabis

In addition to largely eliminating the costs caused by cannabis prohibition from the legal and corrections systems, legalising cannabis would ease the tax burden in other ways. Currently all taxpayers cover the health care costs associated by cannabis use, while money spent by users on the drug itself is not taxed. If cannabis was sold under a legal, regulated system, those who choose to accept the risks associated with cannabis use would pay tax on the product, some of which could be targeted to the systemic costs of cannabis use (much as users of tobacco and alcohol do now). And I think you'll find that the costs of harms caused by cannabis to non-users are drastically lower than those caused by alcohol in terms of road accidents, property damage, domestic violence, etc.

Cut through the lies

If people weren't put in prison or the court systems for using, growing and selling cannabis then our tax dollars wouldn't be paying for it.
I know many people who have used and use cannabis on a daily basis. None of these people bother anybody else over it, they get on with their lives, study, hold down jobs, look after their families and never end up in drug abuse centres or suffer health problems due to their cannabis use. I'm not saying there are no health issues with cannabis use, just that most people use cannabis responsibly while only a minority may have problems. Just like how not everybody who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic or a drunk driver.
There are many more people costing the health system far more money due to alcohol and tobacco related problems than for cannabis use and nobody is suggesting locking alcohol and tobacco 'dealers' in prison.
There is no rational reason for cannabis users to be criminalised for their use if no harm comes to others. If a person is caught drunk driving they are charged with driving under the influence (harmful to others) not 'being drunk' or 'possessing alcohol', the liquor store or pub is not charged with 'dealing alcohol'.
The only 'harm' most cannabis users complain about is the harm of the social and legal stigma of being a cannabis user. People need to get real and cut through the fear mongering and lies when it comes to cannabis.

I lol'd

I agree conky, anyone would think that smoking cannabis was illegal or something.. A+++ excellent comment, champion

Tax dollars and cannabis

My tax dollars are also paying for health care, drug abuse centres and the many people in prison for selling and growing cannabis!! So a few police hours a week during their already rostered shifts is nothing!.... Every week police have specific things to target... cannabis, running stop signs, seatbelts etc... all which are positive. People refer to stopping 'real crime', you don't see senior police and policy makers going undercover to control cannabis.. it's the junior police doing their job and so far doing it well.

Better use of police time?

Surely the police have more important things to worry about. I can certainly think of better ways for my tax dollars to be spent.
I can only speculate that these multiple undercover operations involving several uniformed and undercover officers each time have already cost the taxpayer thousands of dollars and wasted countless hours of police time. These operations have done nothing to stop anybody smoking any cannabis.
The irrationality of cannabis prohibition and the 'war on drugs' boggles the mind. Your tax dollars are paying for this.