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Plain packaging will not completely 'stop' anyone from
smoking, but it will help. I guess an example of what a plain
packaging looks like would be helpful.
Smokers are addicted to the nicotine not the packaging. Plus
I think the packaging should stay as it is (maybe include
more health warnings).
What ultimately stops smokers from smoking...is a strong
And since 2004 all bars have had well supported smoking
areas. Just as well for the bars too - if not, most would
have closed by now. Most are struggling to keep their heads
above water as it is.
Well speedfreak43, yes smoking is anti social, it is going to
cause most people that partake cancer and other diseases, and
classic symptoms of denial surface when smokers start stating
statistics about life-long smokers living to grand old ages,
and non-smokers happily passive smoking amongst their mates
in the interests of a rewarding social life, happy to
inhale even though second-hand cigarette smoke contains
poisonous chemicals such as arsenic, hydrogen cyanide,
ammonia and carbon monoxide. I'm not sure which bar you are
referring to but licensed premises (bars, restaurants, cafes,
sports clubs, casinos) became smokefree indoors from 10
December 2004. Time to stop the fantasy and get real.
Brianr: Do you really think that smoking is anti-social?
Perhaps you should frequent some bars more often. A lot of
the time nowadays there are more people in the smoking area
than at the bar, and more often than not, a lot of those are
non-smokers who don-t wish to be left sitting by themselves
when their friends go out.
Everlast: I like your plan of putting the smoke prices up by
5 times their current value. As alchohol is a worse social
problem, we should put the price of this up ten fold at the
same time. Obviously, neither of these plans will work as it
will only drive them underground and make the gangs richer.
Let's not forget to say happy birthday to the 103 year old
lady who was in the news in the last few days. She celebrated
her day with alchohol and a cigarette
My father died at age 67 from emphysema leading to a heart
attack. I remember that not long before he died we had to get
a taxi to go 2 city blocks from the car park to the theatre.
Much worse was watching my mother die 30 years later from
pulmonary fibrosis probably brought on from living in a smoke
environment, she never smoked. I do not blame my father, he
did not know and was given cigarettes when in the army during
I had asthma as a child but it left me after I moved from
home. I am now 69 and tramp regularly and doctors tell me I
have very little chance of a heart attack but I avoid smokers
like the plague. I object to them smoking at bus stops and
hold my nose when passing them in the street. No smoker would
be invited to my house or into my car. Government banning
smoking would not work, just reduce the places where it is
legal, preferably only in their own home if they have no
Just put the price up to $100 a pack now . . . that will
prevent people from taking it up, it will be a lot harder to
stop the smokers now, but it will help.
The tobacco companies are the world's biggest drug pushers,
but people cannot see that.
@Plain Talking: Regardless of what age group you think the
advertising is aimed at, what must be remembered is that you
need to be 18 to purchase cigarettes. At this age you are
considered an adult and therefore should be able to make an
informed decision. Also, by this time one would have been
able to have a drivers licence and make babies for some years
which are a much larger responsibility.
Everyone knows what a cigarette is, no matter what age. Plain
packaging, if it is ever approved, will make not one bit of
difference other than to relieve the taxpayer of yet more to
implement its introduction
It does not matter how cigarettes or tobacco products are
packaged, it will make no difference to sales. The fact is
that tobacco is highly addictive, evidenced by the high
number of people with cancer or other smoking related
diseases still cannot face to give up their smokes. It is a
drug, and as such it is time the Government stopped turing a
blind eye for the sake of their considerable income from
tobacco taxes and passed some legislation banning these
products from sale.
Their argument would be that they make more in tax than it
costs them in health care, but immorally they let it go on
and on. People who get up in arms about anti-smoking lobbies
and probably my comments here are probably smokers
themselves. My message to them and anyone who smokes is wake
up to yourself and stop being so foolish.
I have just seen my father go through his final months with
lung cancer, smoked all his adult life and had the staunch
it-wont-happen-to-me stance, but it was the most gut
wrenching thing I have ever had to witness, and if I stop one
person from smoking, then my message has been a success.
Plain packaging is about taking away the persuasive
advertising on cigarette packets so that they are no longer
attractive to those who might start smoking.
It is our young people that are targeted by the advertising
on cigarette packets. Remember, most of those who start
smoking for the first time are young.
We need plain packaging if only to deter those that are
vulnerbale to the attractive packaging.
See what kids think of advertising on ciggarette packets
Whoever thought up this lame idea is obviously not a smoker,
and is trying to justify their salary. A smoker couldn't care
less about the packaging. All they are interested in is
having a cigarette.
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