Taking the moral high ground

Jinja - It is about money. You only have to look at the Google ads on this site: Carbon Credit Trading - Why the market's poised to explode: Carbon offsets: Offset Options: Emissions Trading; N.Z.Carbon Trading. CarbQC measures the CO2 content in your beer and wine.
Reducing Emissions from Deforestation & Degradation - REDD - is a UN scheme to transfer around $30 billion a year from rich to poor countries. Where is this money coming from? This leaves an opening for organised crime. A Climate Change minister in one of these countries has already been suspended for handing out fake carbon credits.

Jinja - Thank goodness for the Steve McIntyres for constantly grasping for reality and truth. Most of what we've been told about the causes and dangers of global warming is misleading, exaggerated, or plain wrong including the claim that the planet is warming - it hasn't since 1998. A much bigger concern could be global cooling and a new ice age. This would be far more catastrophic than a few degrees of warming. A warning came at lunch time today urging South Island farmers to move stock to low levels and ensure plenty of shelter is available as a big snow-making storm bears down on North Canterbury and Marlborough. Mark Twain's advice - "Respect those who seek the truth, be wary of those who claim to have found it."

It's really quite unimportant who is right on this topic. The real 'elephant-in-the-room' is over-population. If we cannot correct the population explosion, we will unquestionably affect the climate, and everything else. Obviously this is an extremely difficult and sensitive topic - but it's one we cannot ignore. Even with our very best efforts it will almost certainly turn very nasty.

The warmly-wrapped up people on the snowfield have the right idea. Preparing for a colder climate and becoming personally energy-independent is something that we can all do.

Sally....I'm not too sure what your point is with this comment. I've a feeling you are a climate sceptic. If by hockey stick graph you mean an exponential function you would be well served to find out more about this very simple mathematical function and what it means when we look at steady growth.

Have a look on You Tube there are many lectures there about this and it's importance in our developing world. As for the climate issue, it's really quite simple I think. There are two questions we need to ask ourselves. 1) Is climate change happening? This is a very hard question to answer and to be honest there isn't too much most of us can do to answer it.
2) Shall we take measures to change our lifestyles in order to mitigate the effects of climate change? There are many things we can do personally which aren't hard at all.

Five minutes on Google will give you heaps of ideas.

This is something we can all do something about. So rather than arguing about whether climate change is happening or not, shouldn't we be spending our time preparing for the worst? If the worst happens then we are ready. If it doesn't what have we lost? Not much. We will have learnt to grow our own food, ride our bikes more and get to know our neighbors better.

The changes we need to make to prepare for the problems that we may or may not be facing will actually improve our lifestyles. From where I'm standing, very few of the world's politicians aren't prepared to back real solutions, especially the NZ government. There is so much governmental green washing going on.

The point of 350 is that as a global community we are uniting together to do what we can, irrespective of our governments input. We are trying to demonstrate to the world's politicians that we are prepared to do what it takes to ensure future generations can enjoy life on Earth. Not just for one or two more generations but forever.

It all seems very straight forward to me, yet so many people seem to miss the point. It ain't about making money, it's about improving the life of our planet and ourselves. I'm really curious about where you stand, I've a feeling that you're just gonna sit back and do nothing because someone told you a few numbers were missing. I hope I'm wrong.

When the mess hits the fan, guess what, we'll still all be here to help you, we won't start pointing fingers and saying told you so. I mean how would that help? It would almost be as useful as what all the climate sceptics are currently doing.

The well-funded climate monopoly pay to find a crisis but don’t pay to check the results. Billions have been spent on global warming theories but auditing to test the integrity of the theories is left to unpaid volunteers.

Steve McIntyre a retired Canadian statistician became suspicious of the Hockey Stick Graph because it was described in terms that reminded him of the Bre-X fraud. The IPCC has widely cited the graph as undeniable evidence that mankind was damaging the planet - an impact that would require drastic measures to reverse.

The Briffa temperature graphs appear to be based on a very carefully selected set of data where 12 samples were used to arrive at his version of the hockey stick.
For years Briffa “refused” to provide his data for peer review. McIntyre finally got hold of it, and looked at the 34 samples left out of the graphs. McIntyre describes it as one of the most disquieting images he’s ever presented.

In science, getting the stamp of “peer review” has become like a free pass to credibility. This unwillingness to allow open examination of methods and data sources is rather common in the climate studies field.

Science publishing by press release has resulted in a politicising of the science of global warming with fortunes to be made or lost based on how elected officials’ vote on a bill. We have ended up with science being used to support political consensus rather than finding the truth