What do you know about the 2013 mayoral
candidates? Council reporter Debbie Porteous puts the
questions to Pete George.
Software consultant Pete George says he will give every
person in Dunedin a much better opportunity to be effectively
heard in council, with substantially improved communications
and methods of engagement, online and via public meetings.
Why are you standing?
Because I believe I can be a better mayor than what we have
got. The DCC survey that just came out showed satisfaction
with mayor and council was down eight [points] to 33%. The
public are saying something and I decided I'd put myself up
to offer them an alternative.
What is your vision for the city?
My key vision goes back to my main policy plank - to be a
much better engaged city, between the council and the people
of the city.
What are the major issues facing Dunedin?
Everyone's talking about economic development, I'm certainly
strong on that, but one thing I'm also talking about that's
different from everyone else is increasing transparency,
increasing communication, increasing engagement with the
public. The council has to deliver information far better
than it does. They've made some moves towards it, but there's
a lot of things that aren't being put out there yet. There's
a lot of things the mayor and councillors are doing that
aren't published, they are doing it on their own, without it
being in the public domain.
The cat committee, the warrant of fitness rental housing. On
both of those, I've talked to councillors who knew nothing
about them. Another good example from last year was the
fracking political statement. The first I heard about it was
in the ODT, and it is still not on the website. Whether you
are for or against it, it's very, very poor transparency.
There's plenty of examples. The more I look, the more I see.
Information needs to get out to the public far more quickly
and transparently. From the people's side, the people's
panel, which I've been a part of since it was set up, is a
good step, but it's very council-centric, with the council
asking people what it wants to know about its questions. What
we should have is a people's panel where the people actually
can control the questions and put them to the council, so
people can communicate back to the council far better. The
idea is to use social media extensively, but also public
For example, the [University of Otago] Centre for Theology
and Social Issues has been having some really good public
discussions. Those things should feed back to the council.
Where it's justified, there should be polling of the public
on issues, too. The problem we have now is things are often
driven by small-interest groups that speak the loudest, that
put the most submissions in, that know how to use the system.
The council portrays that as public opinion, but it's
actually minority opinion that might not represent what the
wider public opinion is.
How would you get more people to become part of council
Council should put everything on its website. There's a lot
of things they don't put on their website. There's things I
look for that I can't find and would expect to be able to. I
don't think a lot of money would need to be spent. It's just
a chance of attitude and change in the way they deliver
information. It's very easy to put everything online -
businesses are doing it all over the place. There's a lot of
tools readily available.
Unless you give people the opportunity to engage more, you
won't know how it will work. There is no use saying: 'They're
apathetic; we won't bother trying'. They need to have a means
of feeling like they are being listened to. If the
information is available and they choose not to do anything,
no excuses. A lot of the information will be boring, and not
all of it will blow up into a big issue.
The sooner you get all the balanced information out there,
the more effective it can be. The longer it takes to get that
information out there, the longer it takes to effect what has
already been put in motion.
So, as quick as possible and with modern social media, and
working with other media.
What are the other issues for the council?
On economic development, council should be vigilant for
opportunities and be quick off the mark, as I was recently
when I proposed a consortium approach to getting as much of
the IRD IT upgrade business for Dunedin as possible. The
Economic Development Unit say they are now working on this.
Council blocking of initiatives also needs to be addressed,
like the Caversham-Chain Hills rail tunnel trail that has
been interfered with for eight years. If opened, this would
be great for commuters and recreational cyclists, and it
could be huge for tourism, effectively extending the [Otago]
Central Rail Trail to Aramoana and Portobello.
An issue coming out is the Greater Dunedin versus the rest
thing. What we are potentially faced with a group that don't
like to call themselves a party, but they look and act like a
party. We could get situation where we have one group with
the mayor and potentially eight councillors on council.
And, if the voters want that, that's fine, but they should be
aware of what they are voting for, and what the possibilities
are there. And what I've noticed more and more, is there is a
strong green leaning in that group. There are several things
the mayor is working on that are basically green policies,
for example the warrant of fitness for homes and the living
What are your politics then?
I'm a member of the United Future party. I ran unsuccessfully
at the last general election.
How will that influence you on council?
I joined them and they asked me to stand because of the work
I was doing in 2011 on promoting local representation and
they saw that and said: 'That fits with us; will you stand?',
so that's why I joined them.
Since then, I have been able to meet a lot of people in
politics. I've got good connections in different parties, I
think that will very valuable to council's lobbying.
Are people voting for you, voting for United Future's
No, that's got nothing to do with it.
I hope we can get what we can get working here with public
engagement and push that through to the party, to all
What would be your strengths as a leader?
As mayor I will be a stronger voice for Dunedin, and provide
a stronger voice in council for the people of Dunedin.
Stronger voice. People's choice. I will be an impartial mayor
without council baggage and without favour for any special
interest or activist groups. I've also got very well
developed financial skills, as well as people and
problem-solving skills through my work.
How much will spend on your campaign?
Several thousand dollars. My campaign spending has been
smart, innovative and frugal, an approach I will taken into
How are you funding it?
My wife and I are funding it. United Future are not funding
it at all.
What community involvement have you had?
I've been involved in trying to find ways to get the
ratepayers' association back in action. There is something in
place that is on hold until after the election. I've been
involved in anti-violence and anti-child abuse campaigning in
Dunedin and nationally.
How many council and committee meetings have you sat in on
in past few years?
None. I've been following it in the media. The timing of that
is not suitable for someone who works during the day. There
has to be more engagement at different times, evenings.
Who are your supporters?
People that want to see more public voice, who want to see
council held to account more. I have support from several
councillors, but it's more ordinary-people support and online
support. I'm getting thousands of views a day on some of the
things I'm doing at the moment.