Octagon trespass notice ignored

Dave Cull
Dave Cull
The Occupy Dunedin group remains camped in the Octagon today despite being issued with a trespass notice yesterday.

The trespass notice was ignored by protesters and not enforced by police last night, exasperating Dunedin Mayor Dave Cull.

At 3pm yesterday, council officials flanked by a security guard issued the group with a trespass notice warning them to cease camping in the Octagon.

The threat of a fine not exceeding $1000 or imprisonment of less than three months failed to deter the group, with its numbers swelling to several hundred before yesterday's 8pm eviction deadline.

Asked last night why the trespass notice was not actioned, Mr Cull said he "had no idea".

Occupy Dunedin members march around the Octagon shortly before the 8pm deadline of their eviction notice lapsed. Photo by Craig Baxter.
Occupy Dunedin members march around the Octagon shortly before the 8pm deadline of their eviction notice lapsed. Photo by Craig Baxter.
"The context is the council issues the trespass notice and if it is not complied with then we supply that information to the police. They are the agency charged with upholding the law and it is up to them.

"Council's take on it is that council doesn't have the right or the resource to enforce the law of the land ... it is up to police and it is in their hands now." The council would not use the services of private firms to move the protesters, he said.

Mr Cull said the council had received comments both for and against the protesters, "but overwhelmingly the pressure from the community is that they have had a fair go and let the wider community enjoy the Octagon".

Suggestions from some members of the Occupy movement that Dunedin was a "guinea pig" for other centres were dismissed by Mr Cull.

"We are talking with other councils, but not co-ordinating with other councils." The protesters, who had been at the site since October 15, were breaching two bylaws, the reserves bylaw and the camping control bylaw, and had rejected an alternative camping site at Market Reserve, he said.

However, that breach was rejected by one protester - "we are not freedom camping; we are camping for freedom".

The Occupy Dunedin group, ranging from toddlers to pensioners, marched around the Octagon shortly before the 8pm deadline, chanting "Shame on the 1%", and "shame on the DCC".

The marchers were largely cheered and occasionally jeered by onlookers, many of whom had been celebrating Melbourne Cup day.

Confirmation the police would not be enforcing the trespass notice was met by loud cheers from the group.

Dunedin-Clutha area commander Inspector Greg Sparrow said he was aware of the trespass notice, but "this is not a straightforward matter and requires careful consideration from a police perspective".

"The rights of people to go about their lawful business and the rights of people to peacefully protest need to be carefully considered.

"I won't be rushed into making any decision about what the police response will be. We will continue to work with the lead agency, the DCC, and the occupiers to come to the best and most appropriate outcome for all involved."

Occupy Dunedin spokesman Andrew Tait said the group was here to stay, and the council's action had helped increase their numbers and support.

"We are very pleased the cops did not come. In terms of protests, the city council knows there is public support, the police don't want to come in and do it, but if they do Dunedin first, then they roll them up in the rest of the country."

University of Otago politics lecturer Dr Bryce Edwards said the movement was an anti-political movement of sorts, with a lack of structure, engagement and organisation.

"It is kind of the opposition to politics, in my view."

The Occupy Dunedin movement had links with the Mana Party, the Unite union and the International Socialist organisation, he said.

While there were many messages associated with the movement, the growing inequality in countries like New Zealand appeared to be the major cause.

Mainstream politicians throughout the world were taking the movement seriously because "the politics of inequality are becoming a bigger issue in society", Dr Edwards said.

- hamish.mcneilly@odt.co.nz

 

The protest

The main problem here is that these people are camping in a location that is illegal to camp on. This is why they should be evicted. They have the right to protest, but it should be done lawfully. Even though this is a peaceful protest they are still breaking the law by camping in the Octagon.

The Police basically need to give these protestors a choice: 1. pack up your tents and leave or 2. stay and be arrested and the tents will be confiscated and on sold to pay for the repair to the grass in the Octagon. I don't believe that bringing drunken student behaviour into this discussion is in any way relevant. The rioters etc who caused damage fires etc have been dealt with. But that is a whole other story an irrelevant to this.

And to mon_key: I am not going to help these people find a job, if they believe they should be earning a high salary then that is great, go apply for those jobs, most people work their butts off to get somewhere in life, big paying jobs don't just magically appear. he main problem is employing unqualified people in to specialist jobs, I myself have a tertiary qualification and am working in the appropriate industry for my education.

But at my previous employment I was laid off because my employer employed unqualified people to work along side myself and subsequently they cost the company too much money and we all lost our jobs. Of the 7 of us that were laid off I was the only one to pick up a new job instantly. Why? Because I have a qualification.

Occupy protest

Royjoy, you have hit the nail on the head. Go to the top of the class. Economy. If you add to that in Dunedin - as you say the students do - trhen you have a license to do as you wish. Unfortunately the occupy mob ain't doing that, so let's get rid of them.

Many mixed messages don't get us anywhere

I am fed up with the unruly students one correspondent referred to, but I am more fed up with the so called occupiers of my city centre. It is time for the DCC to ensure and insist that the police take the protesters off the grass now. Maybe if they want to protest they could go to the University Quad or somewhere on the campus and protest about the high cost of education or about babies being aborted or violence against women or about high drug use or high rates which we all pay one way or another. I want my rates to be used to remove the protesters now that they have had their confused and confusing messages presented to us all and to pay for the resulting damage which they have caused to the Octagon. We have heard their old fashioned anti-capitalism message mixed with other anti government messages. What they have to say comes from confused thinking and is not constructive.

Occupy protest

No double standard here - I think you'll find, when possible, the individuals associated with fires etc. are dealt with through the appropriate legal channels.

At least the student population adds to our city's economy, instead of taking away from it - as the Occupy mob seem intent on doing. I suppose there may have been a possible boom in hacky sack sales though?

Occupy protest

Are we seeing a double standard from the Cull led council? With the issuing of a trespass notice to the Occupy movement that is having a peaceful protest in the Octagon. Yet the students can light fires on our streets, endangering life, wasting police and fire brigade time, and there has never been a trespass notice issued against the student mob.

Where are they?

I refer to the jobs that Funky is talking about.  I am sure if Funky is prepared to provide a list of all firms that are currently recruiting from unsolicited applications (i.e. non-advertised roles) then those firms will have cues at their doors and this whole unemployment thing will just go away.

I too am a "hard working tax payer" and I pay rates, but I am not naive enough to ignore the reality of the situation - more people are loosing jobs than finding jobs.

Occupy Dunedin group

The sooner they are moved on the better

Sort it out

The Octagon is a public space for all not a select few. These people instead of complaining that the government won't help them need a wakeup call, us hard working tax payers are paying for them to live. My suggestion, tidy yourself up and go door knocking looking for a job. There are always going to be people on 6 & 7 figure salaries, so just deal with it.

So give us back our public space which we all pay for from our rates, I hate to imagine what the grass is like after having so many tents there for so long, these people need to be evicted, and they also need to pay for the repair of the grass to the Octagon.

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