NZ asset sales prove debatable

About six members of an audience of more than 200 at St Paul's Cathedral yesterday evening approved of the idea of government asset sales before a debate on the subject.

Only four, including National Waitaki MP Jacqui Dean, who was a panel member in the debate, supported them by the end.

But despite the one-sided nature of the affair, both sides of the argument came through.

The evening was advertised as "informed, provocative debate" on the question: "If you were Prime Minister, would you sell New Zealand's assets?"

Hosted by the University of Otago Centre for Theology and Public Issues, and the cathedral, it involved four "witnesses" giving their views.

New Zealand Institute of Directors vice-president Stuart McLauchlan said his organisation backed the idea of good corporate governance.

He argued having the Government owning and being in charge of 51% of assets that were partially sold, and private enterprise 49%, would give that result.

The privatisation of railways had been a "disaster", but the Air New Zealand model, where the Government owned most of the asset, had worked well.

Presbyterian Support Otago chief executive Gillian Bremner said the sale of state forests meant forests like Naseby, which used to be open to the public, were no longer, showing the public lost more than just the ownership of a company.

University of Otago politics professor Robert Patman argued there was a new international civil society, which would place more scrutiny on "crony capitalism".

He borrowed the catch-cry of the Occupy movement, saying the "99%" would eventually get sick of such policies.

Dr Geoff Bertram, of Victoria University, also spoke.

The six-member panel included former Labour MP Pete Hodgson, who said the 49% owners of assets had rights, meaning the Government would no longer fully control its assets.

Mrs Dean responded the Government needed the money for schools and hospitals.

Borrowing money would become more expensive and leave New Zealand open to an economic situation like that of Greece or Ireland.

Other panel members were political columnist and commentator Chris Trotter, Prof Paul Hansen, of the University of Otago Department of Economics; and Green Party co-leaderMetiria Turei.



Forest access

"Presbyterian Support Otago chief executive Gillian Bremner said the sale of state forests meant forests like Naseby, which used to be open to the public, were no longer"

Ms Bremner, when was the last time you were denied access to Naseby Forest for reasons other than fire danger?

Mr McLauchlan has no problem with asset sales

So Highlanders board member, Stuart McLauchlan, thinks that selling the countries' assets makes good sense. This is very interesting. The city is in massive debt due to building an economically unsustainable stadium for corporate rugby. It can be assumed that Mr McLauchlan is also in favour of selling the city's assets to pay the debt that Mr McLauchlan supported. He made it perfectly clear it was a good investment for the people who could afford to buy some of those asset shares. I wonder who are waiting for Dunedin's assets to be sold?

asset sales

To the question,"If you were PM would you sell the assets?" another question must be put:

"Mr PM, do you own the assets?" ( selling property that does not belong to you is a crime and the police tend to come knocking)

Clearly as the current PM and the current Government ( fly by night as they will inevitably turn out to be) do not now, nor have ever, owned the assets of this country any more than you and I do and past generations have, it is illegal for them to sell them.

In fact even conspiring to sell property that does not belong to you may be illegal....

As 'the NZ Police has plenty of time' according to the present PM it might be a good idea for them to consider that not all theft requires a sawn off shotgun and a balaclava.

Many a heist happens in a suit.



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