Greens to announce mayoral candidate

Metiria Turei
Metiria Turei
The Green Party is poised to announce its own candidate for the Dunedin mayoral election race.

Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei confirmed this week she will announce the party's candidate at the Queens cafe, in the Exchange, next Friday.

The Greens had either offered or supported candidates in local body elections in the city before - but never challenging for the mayoralty.

Dame Sukhi Turner, who was the city's mayor for three terms from 1995, was a Green Party member but was not a formal Green Party candidate.

Ms Turei would not reveal who would be standing but said the Greens were excited to have ''a strong candidate'' for the office.

Other Green candidates would stand for other seats, Ms Turei said.

''Local councils are extremely important and often the solutions around green issues need to be done at the local level.''

Any Green candidate elected to a local seat would remain independent of the overall, national, party, Ms Turei said.

''There would be a level of independence for any candidate because to work at a local level you need to be aware of the local issues which can differ from place to place.''

Speaking from Wanaka last night, Dame Sukhi said candidates with party connections had served on the council in the past - though not all of them had been overtly party-political performing in those roles.

It seemed city voters did not want political parties on the council, she said.

It was easier if candidates were not connected to a party because they were seen not to be influenced by people outside of Dunedin, she said.

University of Otago political lecturer Bryce Edwards said that, nationally, a ''negative perception'' of political parties meant Labour and National stayed away from local body elections.

The Greens would have seen the success of Wellington Mayor Celia Wade-Brown, who stood as a Green candidate, and would look to replicate her success in other cities, he said.

Former mayor Richard Walls was the National Party's Dunedin North MP before he was elected to the Dunedin City Council in 1980, and to the mayoralty in 1989.

No thanks!

Paddy-in-Kiwiland stated in his post that "the Greens have a vision for the future". Well a Green Party vision for the City or New Zealands future is what most persons are greatly concerned about. For me/we? Greens? No thanks!

Leafy suburb shocked by Labour mayor

This happened in 1972, er, darlings, when Neville Pickering won over the Citizens' Ron Guthrie. A Labour mayor welcomed Margaret Thatcher to Christchurch, and that was not right. Not right. /Fendalcia.

Good move by the Greens

Interesting, and great, that the Greens are fielding their own Mayoral candidate. It is a recognition that Dave Cull's 'sustainability' talk is just that. Talk. 

He has flip flopped over the stadium, the Dalai Lama issue, and supports the 28-storey hotel ( clearly unsustainable). Not to mention his openess to deep sea oil drilling off our coast.....if it is environmentally safe. Hah!  Dave Cull is interested in his hold on the mayoralty. He seems to move according to where the greatest pressure is applied. Values and a coherent policy are not in the mix. 

How quickly we forget

Not having parties on council is a relatively recent change. Until the 90s we had two local parties, Labour and Citizens (a thinly veiled National front with the most bizarre rules for candidate selection you could ever imagine).  At one point we even had two "Citizens" parties vying for the council. The much respected Ethel McMillan was both MP for Dunedin North and a councillor for over 20 years.

I don't really see what the issue is with having parties. As someone said below, it helps us see what people stand for (what on earth do Cr Acklin and Cr Collins stand for? I don't know anyone who knows). A little transparency in candidates will hopefully lead to more transparency in council - something we were promised at the last election but so far has only really been honoured in the breech. [Abridged]

Missing the point

Hype: The comparison I drew is relative. There is only a certain percentage that voted Green in the election. Yes, I'm guessing the percentage would be similar to local body and that is a fair assumption. At the end of the day, the majority in this country dont want the Greens or those with similar views anywhere near a position of power and decision-making.

If, by some very small chance I am proved wildly wrong, after the election, you are free to say, I told you so. Won't be holding my breath though. 

Candidates' party affiliations

Speedfreak43 claims support for anti-Green attitude to a local body candidate by writing about "results at the last election. You can then use this same percentage (give or take a % or 2) to figure out local support."
The last election was for central government, and the majority of candidates standing represented a party- Green, Act, National etc. Local body elections are different - even the group calling itself Greater Dunedin claimed no more than a loose general agreement on the way forward. They were not comparable to an established political party with wide grassroots fund-raising support, procedures for electing officers and nominating candidates.
The majority of candidates for the last local body elections identified as independents. There were a few from Community Vision, and a few with other "party" affiliations that hardly anyone had ever heard of.
I do not think one can draw conclusions from either of the last elections, whether central or local body. There is not enough information, and the two are too different to be comparable - how many "independent-identified" candidates are elected to central government, how many to local?

Simple mathmatics

Hype: You should look into recent histry, specifically the results at the last election. You can then use this same percentage (give or take a % or 2) to figure out local support. From this , you will then see "my associates" percentage is much bigger than yours and majority vote should always win in a democracy

As Sherlock Holmes famously said, it's elementary, my dear Hype 

'We' have opinions - plural - about Greens

"We don't want them in government and we don't want them in local council either," writes speedfreak43, referring to Metiria Turei's announcement that there will be a Green candidate standing for the Dunedin mayoralty.  "We" is a confusing little word.  In this case it excludes me, along with other people who see something absurd about Green-o-phobia, especially when one considers how non-Greens have done us like a dinner.  So who are speedfreak43's associates in we-ness?  His family, work colleagues, people he got talking to in the Postshop queue?  Or a duo, him and his bestie?  

Great!

It will be great to see some candidates whose values and principles are worn on their sleeves instead of hidden up them. 

And as for the whiney Labour supporter - well if Labour cannot put up good candidates and win the support of the voters that is their problem.

The Greens keep increasing their support in this city election after election and there is a good reason for that. They are principled, honest and have a vision for the future.  It is great that voters have a chance to vote for them at council level too. 

This is great!

Like Metiria says, lots of these changes need to be made at the local level anyway. 

Labour doesn't stand up for what they (we) believe in anymore. And they manage to choose leadership less charasmatic, less inspiring, less appealing than National, which on the face of it seems impossible. But I do wish them luck.

For now, I'll be siding with the Greens. 

Anyone but Cull

We all know he's going down, the question is how much more of Dunedin can he sell to China before he's booted out.  Will we have any identity left by then?

Mayoral candidates welcome

Excellent. Metiria Turei and the Green Party are making sure this isn't a One-Cull race. Not impressed by the Cull-council's spending sprees (rugby, Carisbrook and DVML), the (politically charged) delay for investigation of Delta, and the continuing lack of council transparency.

Please do tell us who

So we can be sure not to vote them in. We don't want them in government and we don't want them in local council either.

There is a reason Labour can't win an election, and being tied up with the Green party has a lot to do with it. 

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