Carisbrook: $3.4m loss confirmed

Dunedin Mayor Dave Cull discusses the cost of the Carisbrook deal yesterday, watched by (from left) council chief executive Paul Orders and council city property manager Robert Clark. Photo by Gerard O'Brien.
Dunedin Mayor Dave Cull discusses the cost of the Carisbrook deal yesterday, watched by (from left) council chief executive Paul Orders and council city property manager Robert Clark. Photo by Gerard O'Brien.
The Dunedin City Council made a bad call for the wrong reasons when it bought Carisbrook, and the nearly $3.5 million cost to ratepayers is regretted, Mayor Dave Cull says.

The size of the total losses to the council was finally confirmed by Mr Cull at a packed media conference yesterday, days after the deal to sell the ground to Calder Stewart went unconditional.

New details of the sale agreement with Calder Stewart were also revealed. The company has been given up to three years to pay for Carisbrook, as and when parts of it are subdivided and sold.

The $3.3 million sale to Calder Stewart meant the council would recoup $4.7 million of the $7 million it spent buying Carisbrook and surrounding properties from the Otago Rugby Football Union in 2009.

That left a $2.3 million cash loss for the council, which would rise to about $3.5 million if other bills - including maintenance, interest and other holding costs accrued while it was the owner of Carisbrook - were included, Mr Cull confirmed.

However, he refused to point the finger of blame over the loss yesterday and defended the deal with Calder Stewart, insisting the council had no choice but to ''cut our losses''.

The result was ''not ideal'', but, faced with annual holding costs of $270,000 a year from owning Carisbrook, the sale would at least stop the council ''haemorrhaging'' money, Mr Cull said yesterday.

''We went out and got the best deal we could on the market ... We had to cut our losses.

''We were losing money all the way through. Now we have stopped losing money. That's a good thing.''

Council city property manager Robert Clark said the result reflected the ''huge impact'' of the global financial crisis, which had knocked buyer confidence around the world, including in Dunedin.

Despite that, council chief executive Paul Orders said the council could not afford to wait for a better market.

''The reality is we were carrying, as a council, a stadium which was surplus to requirements. In other words, that's a liability,'' Mr Orders said.

Mr Cull said he voted against the Carisbrook purchase when a city councillor in 2009, but was outvoted in a bid to ensure the Otago Rugby Football Union was a viable tenant of the new Forsyth Barr Stadium.

The decision was made after two independent reports valued the stadium and surrounding properties well above $7 million.

Copies released yesterday showed Chapman Consultancy had, in April 2008, put the package's value at $9.02 million, while DTZ had, in February 2009, estimated its value at $8.345 million.

A third valuation more than two years later in December 2011, also by Chapman Consultancy, put the value of the stadium alone - excluding the other properties - at $7.5 million.

In the end, the council received less than half that for Carisbrook, and just over half the original valuation for the entire package.

Despite that, Mr Cull was reluctant to criticise the valuations, saying they were ''valuations ... not promises''.

The estimates had ''clearly'' been proven wrong, but there were ''a whole lot of decisions here that led us into that situation'', he said.

''That's politics,'' he said.

As part of Calder Stewart's purchase deal, the company paid a $200,000 bond to the council, to be repaid if the site was largely cleared within six months.

That was designed to encourage development of the site.

The company would have up to three years to pay the $3.3 million sale price to the council.

The company was expected to subdivide and sell the property for industrial use, and would give 60% of the proceeds from each sale to the council, together with 5.5% interest each year, Mr Cull said.

Any shortfall after three years would be made up by the company, meaning the council's sale proceeds were guaranteed, Mr Cull said.

The deal gave the council a better result than an earlier offer by Calder Stewart to pay $3 million cash up front, and would also put an end to holding costs, he said.

The $3.46 million cost of the deal included the council's $2.3 million cash loss, as well as $815,000 in holding costs and $347,000 owed to the council by the ORFU from the union's time as a Carisbrook tenant, and later wiped.

The figures do not include an earlier $2 million loan from the council to the ORFU in 1997. Mr Cull said the loan had been accounted for.

It had been repaid by the ORFU at the time the council bought Carisbrook in August 2009, and the cash was then used by the council as part of the financing to buy the stadium from the union, he said.

That meant the council only had to borrow $5 million to fund the $7 million purchase, he said.


Stadium comparisons

I watched State of Origin at the Olympic Stadium in Sydney, 84,000 people attending in a city of over 4 million people. This was the second State of Origin game played there this season, Manchester United play to a full house this weekend.

South Sydney and the Bulldogs play there, the Sydney Swans have 5 home games there. The Olympic Stadium also plays host to numerous concerts, NRL finals, Rugby Union tests, but guess what? The place is broke to the tune of $150 million and can't make any money.

Our FSB stadium is about $220 million or so in the red, hardly ever hosts any events and sits in a city of about 120,000 people. One wonders how our stadium can ever be any more than a financial black hole and the source of endless acrimonious debate. Perhaps its a bit like the Emperor's New Clothes? Even the stadium lovers must know at some level what an absolute financial disaster it is.

We hear that council has no money to spend on any additional projects and that the St Clair sea wall will cost a huge amount to repair. Meanwhile the meter ticks on the million dollar interest bill created by our grossly under used stadium. Rates will rise at twice the rate of inflation this coming financial year, rates will continue to rise well above the rate of inflation in coming years to pay for this luxury we could never afford.




Culling the Citizens of Dunedin

$2.4 yesterday, $3.4 today, ... what tomorrow, oh yes, Mr. Cull I am sure you can quickly purchase another Atheneum with what little money you have left in the coffers and sell yet another property at a loss.

Well Mr Cull. Very soon the Citizens will do the Culling, unless you wish to fall on your own, double edged sword first.


Vote Vertebrate!

With the local body elections fast approaching, we mustn't forget to 'Vote Vertebrate' when choosing our council representatives!

Time to pay the price

Dave: you know what you need to do and it's not that hard at all to pick some names and make them accountable for yet another debacle from you all.

It is time to point fingers, it is time to make some people answer for this, it is time for some heads to roll and it is almost election time.

A decisive mayor would have taken action long ago.


All those involved in the sale/purchase - staff and Councillors - should resign. The registered valuation was not worth the paper it was written on.

Auditor-General and Serious Fraud Office should be called in. 

Names please

Local elections soon. Who are the council members that voted for the purchase in 2009?

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