Driver swigging beer 'not breaking law'

A couple who reported a man driving with an open bottle of beer in Nelson were dumbfounded to be told by police he wasn't breaking the law.

The legal loophole was confirmed by the area's road policing manager, Inspector Jenni Richardson, who said people aged 20 or more could drink while driving providing they did not exceed the legal limit.

However, drivers under 20 years must adhere to a zero alcohol limit, she said.

"While it is not illegal, police do not encourage people to drink alcohol while driving and they would certainly stop them and check their alcohol consumption," said Ms Richardson.

She urged road users concerned about the behaviour of other drivers to note their registration details and call police immediately.

Road safety campaigner Clive Matthew-Wilson, who also edits car review website, dogandlemon.com, was shocked to learn the practice was legal and called for a law change.

"It's completely crazy. I just can't believe our lawmakers are that stupid," he said.

"It's like saying you're allowed to drive carrying a handgun as long as you're not shooting anyone.

"One tends to follow the other. If you're drinking while driving, then it's highly likely that it's going to cause serious road safety problems."

Assistant Commissioner Road Policing, Dave Cliff, highlighted Ministry of Transport figures that showed drinking and driving killed 1463 people and injured 24,789 others in crashes on New Zealand roads between 2000 and 2011.

Anyone found over the legal limit while behind the wheel would face the "full pressure of our resources to remove them from the road", he said.

If they are found to have been drinking at the wheel but are under the limit, police will "assess all of the available information and the relevant circumstances and will take whatever action is appropriate to ensure they do not pose a risk to anyone else".

Vehicle owners may also find that their insurance does not cover them for alcohol consumption behind the wheel.

Mr Cliff noted that police do not make the law.

A spokesman for the Transport Agency said: "Consuming any amount of alcohol impairs your ability to drive."

Nigel Hampton QC said motorists may not be breaking the law by drinking a beer while driving, but police could have "very good cause" to pull them over.

"The cop would have every right to ask what they are doing and get them to 'blow into this machine please'," he said.

- Kurt Bayer of APNZ & Andrew Board of the Nelson Weekly

But you can

Speedfreak: You seem to have missed the point of the story. What the story is saying is that you can have that drink on your way home, provided you are not over the legal limit for alcohol intake.

How did this even make the news?

You can go to the pub after work and have a beer then drive home with no problems. Seems you can't have that same beer in the car on the way home instead. Pathetic.

Ignorance is bliss

Certainly been legal for the past 33 years or more.  Just not publicised!

That doesn't sound right

Though I can't quote the exact law, I am quite certain that having an open bottle of alcohol in a vehicle is illegal.

Has the law changed? when I was in my twenties we all knew not to have an open bottle of alcohol in the car, because you would get a ticket.

If this changed, when and why?  Maybe something the ODT could follow up? 

Logic clearly has no place here

First off why would anyone get upset that someone is drinking while driving oppsed to drinking before driving? There is no difference at all because both run the chances of the driving being over or under the limit. At least if you see them with a beer in hand you can avoid them.

This article brings up a very good point though.

"A spokesman for the Transport Agency said: "Consuming any
amount of alcohol impairs your ability to drive."

I don't understand why alcohol and driving are allowed to be mixed at all. So let's not be illogical in banning drinking while driving. Lets be smart and ban all levels of alcohol. Alcohol B/C should be 0 for everyone at all times.

Drink-driving

Yet another example of a law which was working being changed (and it now should probably be changed back). It used to be illegal to have an open container of alcohol inside a vehicle (regardless of drinking). When was this deleted?

It seems to be driven by the same stupidity that saw the Give Way Rule changed from a good one, to a dumb one, and then recently changed back to what it was.

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