Submitted by Dunedin Born on Mon, 14/09/2009 - 8:18pm.
Hey let's light fires and jump over them in the street. Funny
hah hah. While we are at it let's bottle a cop. At your age,
I was almost a trained nurse. Forget about your professions,
if you are doing this stuff at 18 and 19 years old, I doubt
you will ever be fit for a career. Truth hurts.
This is pathetic. The University should be made to cover the
costs of the police, time wasted by the courts and the street
clean up afterwards. Sending out letters asking students to
behave is too passive...street wardens clearly haven't worked
either. The University needs to take responsibility for its
students and billing the University for the costs incurred to
the city (rate payers pay for the Police, courts, street
cleaning etc) will make the University sit up and take
notice; the students and the University get away with it
every time. Local alcohol outlets should also be in the frame
as most of those involved in these events are normally
intoxicated. Those presecuted and dealt with by the courts
should be asked to leave the University. Non student
residents in this part of the city are sick and tired of this
type of behaviour and the lack of management of students by
the University. The current strategy for dealing with this
type of behaviour clearly isn't working. Blaming the Police
is futile as is blaming the Indie 500 - neither start fires,
throw bottles etc. It's the students of the University that
are to blame and need to take full responsibility...end of.
I think it deserves to be pointed out that the fires and
disorderly behaviour that inevitably led to the rioting were
well underway before the Undie cars even arrived in Dunedin.
The Undie merely serves as a catalyst for everyone who wants
a riot to agree on a single weekend. But the Canterbury
students can't be blamed. Based on what was said by the
people I spoke to during and after the disorder, the front
line of people bottling the police were third year
Otago students.
Sure, Otago people share the lion's share of the blame for
Friday incidents.
However, the Undy is only a catalyst because it's so poorly
managed and allows such to occur. A professional event deals
effectively with all side effects of their event, and any
professional organiser would have canceled the event when
they lost the events centre and the Castle Street problems
became predictably unavoidable.
Indeed because the event now has its own legs (and they
probably couldn't kill it even if they did actually want to),
Ensoc have a greater responsibility to see it's run properly
- and not the predictably dangerous event they deliver each
year.
Though to be fair to all concerned, I don't think anyone
expected the Friday problems that did occur.
One word. Embarrassing. All I can say is i really hope a
whole lot of stupid kids got arrested. I'm all for having a
good night out, and I must admit I did not hear anything at
all last night in my flat just one block over from Castle
street. But seriously guys you have got to grow up sometime.
And I can guarantee that in a few years you're going to be
the ones posting these kind of messages and stating how much
you cannot wait to get out of the student ghetto that is
Dunedin North.
Live it up while you can but hey show the police a little
respect they're pritty good people and I'm sure they have
better things to do with their time than babysit a bunch of
second years. So to the people who got arrested last night
HAHA and I hope you'll take just as much pleasure in lighting
fires and smashing bottles once you have been kicked out of
uni, and we'll see how relaxed the law is once the proctor's
not there to protect you.
Its interesting to see that the aggression begins when the
police get there - I think that if they keep a lower profile
there would be less trouble, bottle-throwing etc. And surely
so long as students keep their bad behaviour to themselves
it's not a big deal what they do? Anyone who isn't a student
should have enough sense to stay away from Castle St on Undie
night if they don't want trouble.
Apart from that, fires are dangerous, but only to people who
get too close, and maybe they'll gain some common sense if
some of them get hurt cos emergency services aren't keeping
an eye on them for once. Try just leaving them to it. Two
things to previous posters - students don't need to give the
other young people in Dunedin a bad reputation, they do it
themselves - last year there were as many arrests of Dunedin
residents who were not studying as Otago students. And
Generation Me (of which I am one) are the way we are because
of the way we've been brought up - just saying.
It is absolutely digusting that once again these little
spoilt rats have once again ruined what used to be a
fantastic event. Why don't the police just ban the undie 500
altogether - they know when it's happening, stop them
entering Dunedin. If I was a parent to one of those kids
throwing beer bottles at police, I would be ashamed. These
students need to grow up or go to another town and trash
that.
Submitted by BammBamm on Sat, 12/09/2009 - 4:23pm.
But I'm a law abiding one. I don't go about drinking,
rioting, and urinating. I'm busy studying. I want to see the
following: Expulsion of all those there on camera. That's it
- expel the lot of them. Entrance exams for all first
year students at Otago for every subject during orientation
week. Aany grade under 80% will mean no entrance
to any department in any subject.
Submitted by LukeReid on Sat, 12/09/2009 - 3:19pm.
Notice the huge difference in atmosphere and behaviour with
and without the presence of cops? Here's a novel idea - leave
them alone and don't provoke them. They will eventually go
home to bed and the world will keep on spinning.
Submitted by msundastood on Sat, 12/09/2009 - 10:15am.
As a young person in Dunedin who doesn't study, it
disappoints me to see this footage, because I tend to get
lumped into the whole "just another scarfie" . I personally
think these people are playing up for the cameras and
wouldn't behave so badly if they couldn't get their 5 seconds
of infamy. But what I don't get is why haven't they been
arrested for breaking the liquour ban?
Or why doesn't the police pink sticker these cars? Come on
Otago students (and by that I mean the minority of them), get
your act together, your making the rest of the people under
the age of 30 look bad.
Submitted by Andykatib on Sat, 12/09/2009 - 11:56am.
You're right, these rioters are giving all teenagers and
young adults in Dunedin a bad name. Back in the 1980s, the
Undie 500 did not have all these problems with alcoholism and
bad behaviour. Is this the new Generation Me? Where all
that's important is looking out for yourself? If this is so,
where are we headed to?
Some students
Hey let's light fires and jump over them in the street. Funny hah hah. While we are at it let's bottle a cop. At your age, I was almost a trained nurse. Forget about your professions, if you are doing this stuff at 18 and 19 years old, I doubt you will ever be fit for a career. Truth hurts.
Pathetic
This is pathetic. The University should be made to cover the costs of the police, time wasted by the courts and the street clean up afterwards. Sending out letters asking students to behave is too passive...street wardens clearly haven't worked either. The University needs to take responsibility for its students and billing the University for the costs incurred to the city (rate payers pay for the Police, courts, street cleaning etc) will make the University sit up and take notice; the students and the University get away with it every time. Local alcohol outlets should also be in the frame as most of those involved in these events are normally intoxicated. Those presecuted and dealt with by the courts should be asked to leave the University. Non student residents in this part of the city are sick and tired of this type of behaviour and the lack of management of students by the University. The current strategy for dealing with this type of behaviour clearly isn't working. Blaming the Police is futile as is blaming the Indie 500 - neither start fires, throw bottles etc. It's the students of the University that are to blame and need to take full responsibility...end of.
Can't blame Undie in this case
I think it deserves to be pointed out that the fires and disorderly behaviour that inevitably led to the rioting were well underway before the Undie cars even arrived in Dunedin. The Undie merely serves as a catalyst for everyone who wants a riot to agree on a single weekend. But the Canterbury students can't be blamed. Based on what was said by the people I spoke to during and after the disorder, the front line of people bottling the police were third year Otago students.
Catalyst
Sure, Otago people share the lion's share of the blame for Friday incidents.
However, the Undy is only a catalyst because it's so poorly managed and allows such to occur. A professional event deals effectively with all side effects of their event, and any professional organiser would have canceled the event when they lost the events centre and the Castle Street problems became predictably unavoidable.
Indeed because the event now has its own legs (and they probably couldn't kill it even if they did actually want to), Ensoc have a greater responsibility to see it's run properly - and not the predictably dangerous event they deliver each year.
Though to be fair to all concerned, I don't think anyone expected the Friday problems that did occur.
Leith Street North student
One word. Embarrassing. All I can say is i really hope a whole lot of stupid kids got arrested. I'm all for having a good night out, and I must admit I did not hear anything at all last night in my flat just one block over from Castle street. But seriously guys you have got to grow up sometime. And I can guarantee that in a few years you're going to be the ones posting these kind of messages and stating how much you cannot wait to get out of the student ghetto that is Dunedin North.
Live it up while you can but hey show the police a little respect they're pritty good people and I'm sure they have better things to do with their time than babysit a bunch of second years. So to the people who got arrested last night HAHA and I hope you'll take just as much pleasure in lighting fires and smashing bottles once you have been kicked out of uni, and we'll see how relaxed the law is once the proctor's not there to protect you.
Police presence key to violence?
Its interesting to see that the aggression begins when the police get there - I think that if they keep a lower profile there would be less trouble, bottle-throwing etc. And surely so long as students keep their bad behaviour to themselves it's not a big deal what they do? Anyone who isn't a student should have enough sense to stay away from Castle St on Undie night if they don't want trouble.
Apart from that, fires are dangerous, but only to people who get too close, and maybe they'll gain some common sense if some of them get hurt cos emergency services aren't keeping an eye on them for once. Try just leaving them to it. Two things to previous posters - students don't need to give the other young people in Dunedin a bad reputation, they do it themselves - last year there were as many arrests of Dunedin residents who were not studying as Otago students. And Generation Me (of which I am one) are the way we are because of the way we've been brought up - just saying.
Undie 500 - disgusting
It is absolutely digusting that once again these little spoilt rats have once again ruined what used to be a fantastic event. Why don't the police just ban the undie 500 altogether - they know when it's happening, stop them entering Dunedin. If I was a parent to one of those kids throwing beer bottles at police, I would be ashamed. These students need to grow up or go to another town and trash that.
I'm a student
But I'm a law abiding one. I don't go about drinking, rioting, and urinating. I'm busy studying. I want to see the following: Expulsion of all those there on camera. That's it - expel the lot of them. Entrance exams for all first year students at Otago for every subject during orientation week. Aany grade under 80% will mean no entrance to any department in any subject.
Police
Notice the huge difference in atmosphere and behaviour with and without the presence of cops? Here's a novel idea - leave them alone and don't provoke them. They will eventually go home to bed and the world will keep on spinning.
Undie 500
As a young person in Dunedin who doesn't study, it disappoints me to see this footage, because I tend to get lumped into the whole "just another scarfie" . I personally think these people are playing up for the cameras and wouldn't behave so badly if they couldn't get their 5 seconds of infamy. But what I don't get is why haven't they been arrested for breaking the liquour ban?
Or why doesn't the police pink sticker these cars? Come on Otago students (and by that I mean the minority of them), get your act together, your making the rest of the people under the age of 30 look bad.
Undie 500 - You're right
You're right, these rioters are giving all teenagers and young adults in Dunedin a bad name. Back in the 1980s, the Undie 500 did not have all these problems with alcoholism and bad behaviour. Is this the new Generation Me? Where all that's important is looking out for yourself? If this is so, where are we headed to?