This is not Dunedin. It shows a lack of dicipline. Perhaps a
few clips over their ears as kids were needed.
This has been reported in Melbourne in Australia as was the
Toga party. This is not the way to attract people to Dunedin.
This institution isn't a high school. These people are young
adults and should be held responsible for their own
behaviour, the university has no management of their daily
lives, or shouldn't have to deal with this.
I'm a university student myself, and I spent the weekend
quietly hanging out with friends far from the Undie 500
scene. If there's one mentality that frustrates me here it's
the approach many residents and mayor Peter Chin have to
students. Many act like we are all irresponsible rioters who
are the bane of Dunedin's otherwise peaceful existence.
"Non-student residents" are tired of this behaviour, well so
are many of the student population. The idea we're all
drunken morons gets those of us who are genuinely working
hard for their education nowhere.
Submitted by pantera989 on Mon, 14/09/2009 - 5:42pm.
How is it the University's fault, they don't run or promote
this event and have no power to stop it. Local business that
profit from the event should possibly have to help pay for
the cleanup, with it being the biggest night(s) of the year
for some. The bylaw for the alcohol ban has a large fine that
can go with it and should be used to help pay for the costs.
There is really no way to stop this happening every year
unless police are given and use the power to stop it before
it starts. Alot of what allows this to happen is that the
said "rioters" feel security in that they can just run into
their houses when the police come.
Yes Hedsta this is pathetic. But the individuals involved
should be held to account, not the University.
Please keep two facts in mind:
Firstly, it is not solely University students involved. A lot
of non-students come to the area in the hope of trouble.
Around ten percent of the arrests were non-students. I even
saw a high-school van dropping people off (John McGlashan may
be interested in asking whoever was using their van on
Saturday night why it was dropping people off).
So while many University students are indeed very much
involved, they are not solely to blame.
Secondly, this is only a handful of the city's students
involved - so why should the rest pay for the costs of an
unofficial event most of them probably don't even
support?
That is as illogical as suggesting that the DCC should pay
for drunken damage to the Christchurch stadium simply because
the people who did it come from Dunedin.
The University made to cover costs?
The offenders involved in the riot should pay whatever
clean-up costs, bill the addresses on Castle St.
How about some landlords in the area enacting clauses in the
tenancy agreements they have with students that say 'no
parties are to be held on the property'. Kick them out and
hit them in the pocket. Those flats are the ones that had
people inciting the behaviour over the weekend. The landlords
and property managers are just too soft and want the money.
They know it would not be hard to fill the flats again.
A lack of management of students by the University? The
current strategy not working?
Parts of the University have worked damn hard over the last
few years, there has been a massive reduction in anti-social
behaviour in North Dunedin, ask anyone. Unfortunately their
are idiots that can't handle their booze, those same idiots
ruin it for the other 99% of the student population who know
how to drink and not throw bottles, respect themselves, their
mates and others, and have a good time.
This is pathetic. The University should be made to cover the
costs of the police, time wasted by the courts and the street
clean up afterwards. Sending out letters asking students to
behave is too passive...street wardens clearly haven't worked
either. The University needs to take responsibility for its
students and billing the University for the costs incurred to
the city (rate payers pay for the Police, courts, street
cleaning etc) will make the University sit up and take
notice; the students and the University get away with it
every time. Local alcohol outlets should also be in the frame
as most of those involved in these events are normally
intoxicated. Those presecuted and dealt with by the courts
should be asked to leave the University. Non student
residents in this part of the city are sick and tired of this
type of behaviour and the lack of management of students by
the University...the current strategy for dealing with type
of behaviour clearly isn't working.
Undie 500
This is not Dunedin. It shows a lack of dicipline. Perhaps a few clips over their ears as kids were needed.
This has been reported in Melbourne in Australia as was the Toga party. This is not the way to attract people to Dunedin.
University cover costs? Ridiculous
This institution isn't a high school. These people are young adults and should be held responsible for their own behaviour, the university has no management of their daily lives, or shouldn't have to deal with this.
I'm a university student myself, and I spent the weekend quietly hanging out with friends far from the Undie 500 scene. If there's one mentality that frustrates me here it's the approach many residents and mayor Peter Chin have to students. Many act like we are all irresponsible rioters who are the bane of Dunedin's otherwise peaceful existence.
"Non-student residents" are tired of this behaviour, well so are many of the student population. The idea we're all drunken morons gets those of us who are genuinely working hard for their education nowhere.
University needs to take responsibility?
How is it the University's fault, they don't run or promote this event and have no power to stop it. Local business that profit from the event should possibly have to help pay for the cleanup, with it being the biggest night(s) of the year for some. The bylaw for the alcohol ban has a large fine that can go with it and should be used to help pay for the costs. There is really no way to stop this happening every year unless police are given and use the power to stop it before it starts. Alot of what allows this to happen is that the said "rioters" feel security in that they can just run into their houses when the police come.
This is pathetic, but woah up on the blame game
Yes Hedsta this is pathetic. But the individuals involved should be held to account, not the University.
Please keep two facts in mind:
Firstly, it is not solely University students involved. A lot of non-students come to the area in the hope of trouble. Around ten percent of the arrests were non-students. I even saw a high-school van dropping people off (John McGlashan may be interested in asking whoever was using their van on Saturday night why it was dropping people off).
So while many University students are indeed very much involved, they are not solely to blame.
Secondly, this is only a handful of the city's students involved - so why should the rest pay for the costs of an unofficial event most of them probably don't even support?
That is as illogical as suggesting that the DCC should pay for drunken damage to the Christchurch stadium simply because the people who did it come from Dunedin.
Are you serious?
The University made to cover costs?
The offenders involved in the riot should pay whatever clean-up costs, bill the addresses on Castle St.
How about some landlords in the area enacting clauses in the tenancy agreements they have with students that say 'no parties are to be held on the property'. Kick them out and hit them in the pocket. Those flats are the ones that had people inciting the behaviour over the weekend. The landlords and property managers are just too soft and want the money. They know it would not be hard to fill the flats again.
A lack of management of students by the University? The current strategy not working?
Parts of the University have worked damn hard over the last few years, there has been a massive reduction in anti-social behaviour in North Dunedin, ask anyone. Unfortunately their are idiots that can't handle their booze, those same idiots ruin it for the other 99% of the student population who know how to drink and not throw bottles, respect themselves, their mates and others, and have a good time.
Pathetic
This is pathetic. The University should be made to cover the costs of the police, time wasted by the courts and the street clean up afterwards. Sending out letters asking students to behave is too passive...street wardens clearly haven't worked either. The University needs to take responsibility for its students and billing the University for the costs incurred to the city (rate payers pay for the Police, courts, street cleaning etc) will make the University sit up and take notice; the students and the University get away with it every time. Local alcohol outlets should also be in the frame as most of those involved in these events are normally intoxicated. Those presecuted and dealt with by the courts should be asked to leave the University. Non student residents in this part of the city are sick and tired of this type of behaviour and the lack of management of students by the University...the current strategy for dealing with type of behaviour clearly isn't working.