WilliamSheridan has asked a really good question - just who
or what is Howard Research? They are not listed as a
company according to the Coys website database and no sign of
them anywhere else as far as I can see. However,
wingy1234 clearly knows of them as a leading research
group. So maybe wingy1234 can enlighten us all.
I am very cautious of any company that either predicts or
measures economic benefit of events as has been proven time
and time again, the purchasers of the research want a certain
result - minimise costs, maximise benefits. If I was
running the research company I'd make sure that my client's
needs were met and that way I'd get return business.
Why on earth was this on the front page? Get real ODT, this
at best is a back section interest piece and not fit for the
front page. Anyway the dress was ugly in my opinion. There
were heaps of other more interesting things happening in
Dunedin that should have been on the front page for goodness'
sake. The tattoo show for one was a lot more deserving than a
private wedding of two people in Port Chalmers, even if the
groom worked for your paper.
Ian, how many times do you need to be told it is a stadium,
it is not a rugby stadium, it is not a concert hall, it is
not a soccer stadium etc etc, it is just a stadium.
From memory it has had some successful rugby there, the odd
soccer game, a great concert and a few other events like the
Masters Games.
Looking forward I believe O week is there next and then a
rugby game or two and a soccer game and a musical then some
more rugby.
Rugby will use it approximately "a dozen" times a year.
Soccer probably a dozen also. Masters Games 8 days. Concerts,
maybe 3 or 4 per year. Conferences dozens. It was always
built on the fact that professional rugby would use it about
a dozen times a year.
In fact, rugby has only had 7 games there so far from memory.
There have been more soccer games there. Truly a multipurpose
arena.
Kris, you might want to look up section 219 of the crimes act
and you will find there can not have been any theft.
While you are there you could also look up section 228
dishonestly using a document, section 240 obtaining by
deception or section 242 false statement by promoter.
These may be more pertinent to your argument if you wanted to
try and prove them, but I doubt it.
Years ago, I gave up on my career in whiteware design,
because of stress, (I had suffered a debilitating stroke
in the previous year, and didn't want to tempt fate). I
began selling appliances 'between-jobs' and kept it up for
seven years. As a newcomer to the retail game, one of the
first concepts I had to come-to-terms with, was 'nett-profit'
especially since my firm's performance was rated solely on
'turnover'. Your 'actual' profit as mentioned earlier on this
thread, I think, is 'nett-profit', eg profit after all
deductibles.
In the appliance industry, you will shift little 'product',
especially in tight times unless you trade-in redundant items
for resale or disposal. There was a sure-fire way to give the
illusion of greater sales, eg to give overly generous
allowances for trades-ins. That process was known,
disparagingly, (and quite rightly so), as 'buying-business',
and with the overly-generous concessions being made to
would-be hirers of the stadium, (and underwritten by
ratepayers), 'buying-business' is exactly where the stadium
is headed currently, and will remain forever 'pointed' under
current DVML/DCC policies.
Oh! and the firm I had once worked for? Well it
later went belly-up in a big way. Fortunately, by
that time, I was long gone.
By 'Max_Power's' own admission, the stadium stands to be used
by rugby around half a dozen times per year. Can anyone
explain to me why then, on the basis of those projections, we
semi-bankrupted the city building the bloody thing. It defies
all logic and commonsense.
WilliamSheridan has asked a really good question - just who or what is Howard Research? They are not listed as a company according to the Coys website database and no sign of them anywhere else as far as I can see. However, wingy1234 clearly knows of them as a leading research group. So maybe wingy1234 can enlighten us all.
I am very cautious of any company that either predicts or measures economic benefit of events as has been proven time and time again, the purchasers of the research want a certain result - minimise costs, maximise benefits. If I was running the research company I'd make sure that my client's needs were met and that way I'd get return business.
Why on earth was this on the front page? Get real ODT, this at best is a back section interest piece and not fit for the front page. Anyway the dress was ugly in my opinion. There were heaps of other more interesting things happening in Dunedin that should have been on the front page for goodness' sake. The tattoo show for one was a lot more deserving than a private wedding of two people in Port Chalmers, even if the groom worked for your paper.
dundeeboy I think you just proved my argument.
money obtained by deception
thank you
Ian, how many times do you need to be told it is a stadium, it is not a rugby stadium, it is not a concert hall, it is not a soccer stadium etc etc, it is just a stadium.
From memory it has had some successful rugby there, the odd soccer game, a great concert and a few other events like the Masters Games.
Looking forward I believe O week is there next and then a rugby game or two and a soccer game and a musical then some more rugby.
Seems like it has a multitude of uses to me.
Ian Smith writes: By 'Max_Power's' own admission, the stadium stands to be used by rugby around half a dozen times per year.
That's not what he wrote.
Told you to duck, halfway there just Missy, TheWatcher and digger to go and got the catch limit.
Rugby will use it approximately "a dozen" times a year. Soccer probably a dozen also. Masters Games 8 days. Concerts, maybe 3 or 4 per year. Conferences dozens. It was always built on the fact that professional rugby would use it about a dozen times a year.
In fact, rugby has only had 7 games there so far from memory. There have been more soccer games there. Truly a multipurpose arena.
Kris, you might want to look up section 219 of the crimes act and you will find there can not have been any theft.
While you are there you could also look up section 228 dishonestly using a document, section 240 obtaining by deception or section 242 false statement by promoter. These may be more pertinent to your argument if you wanted to try and prove them, but I doubt it.
Years ago, I gave up on my career in whiteware design, because of stress, (I had suffered a debilitating stroke in the previous year, and didn't want to tempt fate). I began selling appliances 'between-jobs' and kept it up for seven years. As a newcomer to the retail game, one of the first concepts I had to come-to-terms with, was 'nett-profit' especially since my firm's performance was rated solely on 'turnover'. Your 'actual' profit as mentioned earlier on this thread, I think, is 'nett-profit', eg profit after all deductibles.
In the appliance industry, you will shift little 'product', especially in tight times unless you trade-in redundant items for resale or disposal. There was a sure-fire way to give the illusion of greater sales, eg to give overly generous allowances for trades-ins. That process was known, disparagingly, (and quite rightly so), as 'buying-business', and with the overly-generous concessions being made to would-be hirers of the stadium, (and underwritten by ratepayers), 'buying-business' is exactly where the stadium is headed currently, and will remain forever 'pointed' under current DVML/DCC policies.
Oh! and the firm I had once worked for? Well it later went belly-up in a big way. Fortunately, by that time, I was long gone.
By 'Max_Power's' own admission, the stadium stands to be used by rugby around half a dozen times per year. Can anyone explain to me why then, on the basis of those projections, we semi-bankrupted the city building the bloody thing. It defies all logic and commonsense.