Could people stop making out the university pays zero in
rates. They have discounted rates, not completely rate free.
I know it makes your whinge sound better, but try to stick to
the truth, it's a better story.
Take your issues up with the government. At the same time you
might ask that the law be changed to include churches,
schools, and early childhood centres, amongst others. The
rates relief currently being granted to the stadium might
also be mentioned.
I agree the university is not going anywhere. Pity really,
Dunedin is one of the least likely places I would choose to
live. However, the fact is that I work at one of the best
universities in the country, which just happens to be
I'm quite happy to pay my ever increasing rates, participate
in the Dunedin culture and make the best of the weather. I'll
also be happy to move once I retire!
you cant tell me that this is the problem with Dunedin
drinkers. Every Saturday night there are 'kids' out on George
Street who couldnt tell you what street they are on they are
so drunk! But this is OK for the DCC because it's people
making jobs in the city. We are talking about having a bar
open to go and watch a sporting event. I watched the world
cup final in Rialto in 2002. There were Brazilians with drums
chanting and shouting. I'm now of drinking age. If I wasnt
going to Brazil to watch the finals and was to be in
Dunedin to watch the final you're telling me I can't have a
beer and watch it with my friends in a bar because it doesn't
constitute an 'event' or falls outside of normal drinking
Well, sit me down and explain how the most popular sport in
the world holding a finals doesn't constitute an event!
Here's a test: while the final's on at 7pm on a Sunday night
can someone tell me if we have larger than expected numbers
having a beer in the Octagon. Work on real problems Dr Keith
Reid, let us enjoy the football.
IGN: You are correct, if the university is taking on private
enterprise head on how can that be fair? How can
accommodation providers and local landlords compete against a
business that pays no rates? What will be next? Cafes, pubs,
sponsoring more rugby teams? There is theoretically no
stopping them from buying up any property and competing
against anyone. In fact they can paddle in any pool without
fear of the overhead all other businesses face. Council have
shown when it comes to the wants and needs of the university
boot licking is the order of the day.
"Groanpeace" Funny. You do let yourself down however with
your comments re Pleistocene coalmines. The Pleistocene epoch
enjoyed significantly more landmass, lower sea levels and
considerable oscillating glaciation than present. No
suggestion of anthropomorphic input as you suggest but a
considered person will know that the earth's climate is a
complex system that may respond poorly to large short term
inputs e.g. geological events or even anthropomorphic CO2.
My personal belief is we are experiencing natural climate
change and that we are in danger of ignoring our impact on
the climate out of ignorance, laziness, self interest and
If this is opposed due to "The committee considering a
special licence cannot be issued for a television event" then
this will be an interesting precendent, next time the beloved
All Blacks play France, Argentina, England or Wales in their
home land and bars wish to broadcast those games live what
will be the excuse that allows bars to open for that
television event? Consider carfully or is there a different
rule just for rugby?
There is no denying that the University of Otago is a major
contributor to Dunedin's economic wellbeing. But is it the
biggest business in Dunedin? Is this just self promotion
parroted by the ODT? Does the DCC's Economic Development
Unit still maintain that healtcare for the elderly is the
biggest business in town? Certainly the ODT wouldn't bother
to find out if the university press releases are factually