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"Highly Unlikely" means "almost certain".

Gig at The Tip

Well, come on, all you big strong men
Fibre optics are here again
We got ourselves in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Green Is Land
Dump all the junk,
and lithium too
Gig city is here for you!
(Someone shoot that gull. Like, I've lost my harmonica, Albert).

Private hospitals only do simple stuff

Hypo, not only do private hospitals not provide emergency care, the minute things go seriously wrong in a private hospital, the patient is trasnferred to Dunedin Public. That is true for maternities and most other surgical issues. Pity the future poor old punter who will then be forced to wait for a care flight to Wellington or Auckland.

Yep, when you have a government who think private enterprise always does better than public servants, we wind up with debacles such as compass and no real medical care outside Auckland. Welcome to the free enterprise future.


It is not Art, it is visual representation of oral legend, and its intended purpose was to sell booze. What you do is ask first. If not, that is appropriation.

Dunedin demolition system

The commoners should be in private hospitals if  they want good care.

I wonder,  keithmcc, if he remembers that private hospitals don't take accident and emergency patients. And what about the Golden Hour?  Even Invercargill and Dunedin hospitals are a "long hour" away from many parts of Otago and Southland.  How often are helicopters unable to operate due to weather and terrain?  

Centralisation has many benefits but like "the market knows best" it's a simple answer to complex problems and as such should not be touted by shallow thinkers.  They take it on board  like it's the One Great Truth applicable in every situation, and look what a crock-up market worshippers have produced!

Advice for Minister Coleman:  Don't treat all pain with 2 aspirin, don't fix all machinery with a kick, don't tell people with tastebuds that Compass food is great, and don't kneecap Dunedin.

Green Island Tip, Tunnel Beach, University

Dunedin Dave, one would have thought that the University would be the first place to get gigaspeed! 

However the DCC do not own the University or Tunnel Beach, so cross them off the potential list. But the Green Island tip? Now that is a tip, the DCC owns it- tick! So back the Green island Tip to be on the shortlist. It's the tip of the week. 

Total lack of trust

I wouldn't trust any of the words coming from the minister, his FIFO money-sucking rebuild committee or the three amigos currently sucking thousands of dollars a week running the SDHB.

The government simply doesn't care about Dunedin and thinks we are overserviced. I believe they think the medical school would be far better off in Auckland.

The minister has intentionally foisted these groups on SDHB, all the while complaining that the SDHB is running at a massive loss. Their only fix is remove services. If a few people die while going to Wellington or Auckland for care then so what? The commoners should be in private hospitals if they want good care. [Abridged]

Questions at council

Councillors are allowed to ask questions at meetings but they are not allowed to cross-examine staff. Genuine questions seek an answer as yet unknown, whereas cross-examination is designed to create an effect on an audience.

Quoting from a web comment about cross-examination: Trial lawyers have an old saying: "You never ask a question on cross examination to which you do not know the answer to." .... The answer could damage your entire case. When you cross-examine a witness at trial, you're asking very specific, pointed questions. You are asking leading questions. You do not give the witness an opportunity to explain. You ask questions that call for yes or no answers or true or false answers. The specific questions you ask are designed to elicit certain answers. It is almost as if you are testifying by the type of questions you are asking. (ends)

Cross-examination can look very impressive and dramatic. It's supposed to. It's engaged in for making a case. Councillors may try it because it's the only way they can think of to get a discussion they believe is important into the public arena, as generally only the Mayor and the committee chairs have the power to set agendas. Councillors may also feel frustrated that important issues may be explained and discussed only at non-public workshops, something which is arguably contrary to the legal requirement to conduct all of the council's business in public, not just the limited formal decision-making aspect of it.

Another limitation on questions is that councillors may not digress from agenda items. Meetings have to be publicly advertised in advance so anyone interested can know what is going to be discussed and has the opportunity to come and watch. If the meeting didn't strictly limit itself to the advertised agenda items, this transparency wouldn't exist.

If a councillor is not allowed to continue with a question, either by a chair's ruling or a point of order made by another councillor, it would be jumping to conclusions to assume that any kind of cover up is necessarily going on. That possibility does, indeed, exist. However, it might instead be a matter of astute political grandstanding, sometimes rather tough on council staff who are there to give information only, not opinions, and can be awkwardly tangled up by councillors willing and clever enough to outwit them. Getting the balance right between achieving good answers to genuine questions and checking political game-playing depends on the ability, patience and tact of the meeting chair. Looking annoyed and muttering something like, "You don't have to answer that," as Mayor Cull has so often done, may be giving a far more sinister appearance than is really warranted.

Medical research is vital

Universities that have vibrant medical schools, such as Otago, are at the forefront of new ideas. The University of Queensland was able to generate $180 million per annum for Australia, CSL and the university through patenting and licensing Gardasil. The nexus between Otago University and the hospital should be cherished and fostered. This is the very thing that NZ should be encouraging in order to promote smart developments and economic benefits based on intellect.

Otago University should be at the forefront of commercialising new developments. It has yet to realise this potential. It should not be cut short at this stage.

The university has demonstrated success in working with industry - Cadbury is a first-rate example.There are many others.

Please, all parties, take a serious look at the value that could be generated from continuing, and continuing to build, a close relationship between university and hospital.

Spot on

The Dean of the Medical School, Barry Taylor is spot on!

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