Aerosmith a silver-spangled spectacle

Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler revs up the crowd during last night's concert at Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin. Photo by Craig Baxter.
Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler revs up the crowd during last night's concert at Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin. Photo by Craig Baxter.

A spaceship from the 1970s called Aerosmith berthed in Dunedin last night.

More than 20,000 people descended on Forsyth Barr Stadium to herald the arrival of America's biggest rock and roll band.

On their New Zealand debut, the Rock and Roll Hall of famers delivered a 90-minute silver-spangled lighting spectacular driven by veteran masters of rock.

The stage was a hybrid of a spaceship and a guitar, which lead vocalists Steven Tyler and Joe Perry explored to its full extent.

Tyler even threw his jacket into the crowd during Living on the Edge.

Aerosmith has sold more than 150 million albums since it formed in 1971.

Australian band Wolfmother set the stage with its penultimate performance before it disbands after its final gig in its Melbourne hometown on Sunday.

''We're so very happy to be here in such a beautiful stadium and with such a beautiful sound,'' guitarist Andrew Stockdale said.

The stage, which extended 20m into the crowd, looked like a hybrid of a spaceship and a guitar.

After opening with Love In An Elevator, Toys in the Attic and Jaded Aerosmith dived into its legacy of hits.

However, not everyone enjoyed the experience.

Concert-goer Rebecca Hill, of Dunedin, said she and her husband left after less than 90 minutes.

She said she was ''shocked'' to see people openly smoking both marijuana and cigarettes. They had arrived just before 9pm.

Police closed the bars about 9.30pm because people were ''so drunk'', she said.

''There's pushing, there's shoving, there's marijuana. I've just walked out.

''I'm gutted that I've paid 300 bucks for two tickets.''

On the Stadium's Facebook page, comments suggest a mixed experience for fans.

''Stunning concert! Really enjoyed it. Aerosmith were awesome. sound was fantastic where we were. Keep them coming well done!!!!'' wrote Liz Evans.

However, Andrew Jennings found the sound disappointing: ''Walked out on concert as sound was crap. $200 a ticket wasted! Thought you had sorted the sound!''

Several concertgoers also expressed their anger at the bars being closed before the concert ended.

Senior Sergeant Steve Aitken, contacted last night before the concert finished, said he had heard of no major issues, and police had not asked for backup at any stage.

Police had only arrested one person, a 51-year-old Christchurch man, who was taken into custody. He was likely to receive a pre-charge warning for ''drunk and disorderly'' behaviour.

The Dunedin concert was part of the third leg of Aerosmith's ''Global Warming Tour'' to promote the band's 15th studio album, Music From Another Dimension!, which was released in November.

The six-hour rock'n'roll marathon also featured Diva Demolition, Head Like A Hole, Dead Daisies and Wolfmother.

- nigel.benson@odt.co.nz

Drink & food profit

The actual concession Compass Group pays DVML for exclusive catering/beverage rights (except rugby matches?) is 'commercially sensitive' so a best guess will be that Compass Group returns approx 20-30% to DVML.

Well done Dunners but...

Elton John and Aerosmith? Can we get any more washed up? Ok, so I'm not a fan, but are the event organizers looking at breaking in to at least the 90's for their next gig? 

It would have made a profit

Good to see some passion from the bumper sticker brigade. I absolutely support the stadium but didnt need to get a pro sticker.
Nope, I am not female (last time I looked) and have no vested interest and I don't work for or know anyone in the DCC, the stadium etc. I am simply a passionate supporter.
My thinking on whether it made a profit is a calculated "guess" in the same way you will say a loss is a calculated guess. I am so pleased the bands got a "great deal" as that makes absolute business sense for a start up business get customers (promoters) initially. Get the numbers through the gates (fans) so the promoters can see it's working, then increase the price you charge.
To Stevesom: Your guess is as good as mine about the drinks, but I imagine there will be a return on the drinks - again a guess, as I have previously said, based on my calculations the markups on drink at $8-$9 a beer are massive and staff costs would be minimal.
To Speedfreak: You must talk to different people than I do, as people I speak to love it, as most of the 20,000 who went to the show wil -l I am sure - say. [Abridged]

Profit

Itsme seems to know the concert made a profit for DVML when no figures have been produced. Was the sale of alchohol contracted out as has been suggested?

How many people were at U2? I can assure you it was not the meagre number who turned up at the stadium. By the way itsme, can you confirm what the profit was? Ratepayers will be thrilled to see that according to you $180,000 was made from alchohol sales alone. Not sure where you get your information, from but clearly you are the only person in town privy to such information. 

Inevitably it will become clear that the stadium has recorded a massive loss for the financial year. This stadium is sucking the financial life out of this town and will continue to do so. If it was doing so well council wouldn't have to raid $400,000 from the tourism budget to pay people to perform here. If the place makes $180,000 from drinks alone it should have no trouble operating as a standalone enterprise, right? No amount of your spin changes the facts.

As for supporting the stadium, I already contribute many thousands in rates. I am in business here and understand that the numbers re the stadium cannot possibly add up. It sickens me to see the financial life blood of this city pouring down the drain to support this folly. 

$250,000 on drinks?

My guess is we made nothing on drinks/catering as these services are usually contracted out.

Overwhelming negativity

There's nothing wrong with being critical but the overwhelming negativity is what raises eyebrows.

The inherent problem is that the 5% that don't have a good time make a hell of a lot more noise than the 95% that did. This article is a good example of that. The ones enjoying the concert are too busy enjoying themselves to talk to the ODT, whereas the ones angry will rant at anyone and everyone they can. People don't seem to realise that outside of providing the venue, every other decision is at the hands of the promoter.

In terms of volume it was no worse than any other I'd been to - in fact it was probably quieter than any indoor gigs I've been to. Couldn't fathom that people valued standing in line for expensive beer over watching the main acts they'd paid for. 

Echo, echo

Kelsmanly: This 'echo' problem will never be sorted unless a rather large sum of money is thrown at it. And sadly the powers that be will probably decide that once again the ratepayer will stump up the funds to fix the stadium's problems.

Of course, they could always wait until the 'roof' needs replacing (not too far away now) and just not replace it. This will help a little in reducing the echo ...

Quick calculation

Stevesom: Happy to do a quick calculation for you. If the drinks turnover was $250,000 the cost of the product and staff costs would be about $70,000, so if it made $180,000 to come off the stadium debt I am happy - very happy (are you not?).
You also think the event made a loss but stadium management have confirmed in media it made a profit. Why were ticket prices reduced? If you work in business you will know why - better to have more people there at any price as it gains new income at no extra cost, and those extra people  buy other products.  The $49 seats were also restricted view and were not the best in house.
As for the $49 seats: U2 in Auckland in 2011 had tickets from $45 (granted they were not great seats) and I paid $150 one night and $45 the second. If you go to shows you will know this.
Great to see you acknowledged Aerosmith were good and I would encourage you to go. All in all, we agree on one thing, and that is that we want the stadium debt reduced. I am helping with this, as many Dunedin people are.[Abridged]

Areosmith

It was a great concert and well worth going to see, but maybe the people in charge could think about trying to cut down the horrible echo which prevents us hearing the performers talking clearly.

Delusion

So the stadium made $250k on drinks did it? How about the cost of the product and how much it cost to serve it? Turnover does not equate to profit. I think the event lost money, along with Paul Simon. We may have to wait until we have a new council to get the truth but the truth will come out. How much of the new $400,000 events fund was spent to get them here? Why were thousands of tickets reduced to bargain basement prices? Ever been to any major concert event in any international city? You won't get tickets at $49.95 at any of them.

Aerosmith were obviously good. Pity Dunedin ratepayers had to subsidise their visit.  

The right to rave...and complain

It's funny how you get those who castigate people whose comments are perceived to be 'negative'. Everyone has the right to rave about something... or complain. The stadium is not immune from criticism, especially if people pay good money for attending an event and it is a disappointing experience. The criticisms have to be taken on board, otherwise future events are in jeopardy.

Let's face it, the stadium is not fulfilling its financial goals, and never will, despite the best efforts of those who think it can work. It willl continue to load us down with accumulating debt that will inevitably impact on our rates and services. 

By all means have a good time, but remember the financial hangover for the city and ask yourself: is it worth it? If the answer is 'yes', you can complain about the consequences, but it won't help. You will pay more in the end.

Aerosmith great value

We enjoyed Aerosmith last night with family from Christchurch who were most impressed with our fantastic stadium. Got $49 seats and the sound was not that clear up high in the Speights stand but hey, I am not looking for a perfect experience. I agree with most comments about the person who walked out - was this her first ever concert? if you get a couple of people out of 18,000 smoking something dodgy  and it floats around the stadium, who cares? Drink queues were a bit slow - what about a cash only queue?
Have a think about what this event does for our city - all flights and accomodation were booked out, bars, taxis restaurants etc. The drinks alone would have surely made the Stadium some big money. Let's say each person there averaged two drinks each - that's turnover of over $250K on drinks alone. Then add in all the food and we are talking a great return from turnover.
Vectra in Auckland is the next biggest indoor venue in NZ so hopefully it will be a no brainer for bands to pick us when we get 14,000-plus people attending, unless the anti-stadium crowd wants less usage by continually complaining and doing all they can to scare people away so they achieve thir goal of "I told you so"
My message to them? "It's here so get over it". Yes, the city has spent a lot of money but there is no turning back (complaining will not help - apart from making you feel better) so just get on with it and be a salesperson for the stadium so you can help us all pay off the debt faster.

Too loud from many suburbs away

I did not attend the concert.  It thumped and boomed through my house for 6 hours.  And I don't even live close to the stadium.  I have no problem with others enjoying loud concerts, just don't make me endure it too.  Earplugs did not help.

Paradoxes?

It never ceases to amaze me that the people who protect their hearing so piously that they put on hearing protection to spend ten minutes on the end of a lawnmower once a week would see nothing ironical in going to hear this group of geriatric pseudo-hippies, to enjoy (?) decibel levels above the pain threshold.
I have had, at best, 50 percent hearing for the last 53 years. If the hearing goes down in my one workable ear, I am shot. I have never heard the spatial separation in stereo, for example; stereo came on the market six months after I was already profoundly deaf in one ear, due to a stroke. I write and score music, as an 'interest', but my only sense of the placement of instruments in a symphony orchestra, must come from using a standard, well-proven placement of each of the up-to-96 players. Either that, or try to do it graphically, but always for the benefit of others, because I am unable to unscramble the spatial information through one working ear.
So, basically, spare a thought for what you are doing to your hearing before you subject yourselves to this sort of racket, because once your hearing has gone (or its treble component, at least), you are not going to get it back again, except possibly as, a semi-intelligible sense of the bass notes only. In short, in your thirties, you could be experiencing the hearing-loss normally expected of someone aged more than 90, if you really set your minds to it.

Aerosmith put on a spectacular show

i am really disappointed that people did not enjoy the show! i thought it was amazing. I looked past some of the sound issues and let myself enjoy the music. That drummer was phenomenal and Steve Tyler on the harmonica...  wow!  And well Joe Perry on the guitar could not be faulted. I still can't believe they chose to come here, and I'm so grateful they did. I'd also like to give a big shout out to the man in the back of the standing area who rocked it out with dancing and twirling from 4pm til 11.30pm straight in true trippie 70s rock style!
Awesome concert, awesome show, and well done to all the bands who performed. [Abridged]

Al didn't go

There's no point adding Latinate 'al' to the lineup. I wouldn't go unless they served Collards.

Aerosmith

Totally awsome concert, Steve Tyler and Aerosmith still rock it, Dead Daisy's great. Sound quality high up in the stands wasn't that great. Wasn't going to let it stop us from enjoying it, but for the next concert we go to down at the stadium we will get seats lower in the stand.
Come on, bring us some more great bands to enjoy! The spin-off has to be good for Dunedin.

Disgraceful

I have to say that I am appalled at the Aerosmith concert. Modern music is so loud and you can't hear the words.

Aerosmith rocked

It was awesome... it's the biggest band Dunedin has managed to secure. I have been to many concerts around the world and this was right up there with the best.  Steve Tyler is a showman... he's 65 and he has still got it.  Two hours full of rock... can't ask for more. If you don't want the full experience, don't go.  It was well worth the money, and I would do it again.

Rock on Aerosmith, and rock on Dunedin.

 

A rock concert that was loud? No way

For the people complaining about the concert being too loud and their ears still ringing the next day.... what did you expect? It's a rock concert! 

Honestly you should have at least some idea of what you're getting in for and if you don't want ringing ears, you use your common sense and take earplugs. You can still hear everything perfectly it's just not as loud.

Come on people, was this really your first rock concert? 

Oh, and just my 2 cents on the show - it was bloody fantastic. Money well spent. Only disappointment was the lack of energy from the crowd for the first 3 bands (HLAH were amazing!). At least they warmed up once Wolfmother were on.

Aerosmith vocals drowned out

I do not know where the previous people commenting were, but myself and five others where in the stands closer to the back. We saw all the bands - they performed well but the vocals where completely washed out with the echo. The music came through clear enough but I came to hear the singing as well, and you could not make out 90% of the words.
We have been to other concerts in indoor and outdoor stadiums and they where nothing like that. Most of the people we spoke with in our area had the same experience, leaving our group with the thought any concert we go to next will be at another venue. Unless the sound issue is sorted I can see the stadium not selling tickets in high numbers in the future .
And to people that say that we are whinging, I will say that when you pay good money for tickets you should be able to hear the vocals. Like I said earlier, the band's performance was great - Aerosmith still has it. 

Aerosmith et al

There are some of us who have been to numerous concerts over the years.

There will always be people who leave early and there will be all sorts of reasons for this. It could be they are not in the mood; maybe they are annoyed at the goings on around them; grumpy they couldn't get a glass of wine; grumpy at the taste of the wine. Anything. It's just in the nature of people.

People will leave a movie early. So if some people leave early that's not the barometer of whether the event is successful. When you have 20,000 there, the question is did they enjoy it? The answer seems to a resounding yes.

Awesome concert, but sound problems

Aerosmith were great - it was without doubt one of the best concerts I've ever been to (been to a few) and I'm proud that Dunedin was able to host this event.
To those who commented about the noise and Ms Hill: it is a rock concert.  
However, there are big problems with the sound in the stadium.  I was in the stands near the top and the acoustics suck.   We had to move and tried to get down onto the field but our tickets wouldn't allow it. We wound up near the bottom of the stairs where the sound was much better.
Up in the stand it was muddy. Couldn't hardly hear what song they started with ("Living on the Edge") until the chorus.

Aerosmith

My first comment would be that firstly ticket sales on the Aussie leg of the tour are even more expensive than my silver pitch ticket and the sales there are also down as well with discounted entries, so it is a trend - not just to Dunners.  

Secondly, Boondall entertainment centre (Brisbane) for example has a false wall at the rear so if ticket sales are down then the rear can be closed off, with the wall moved forward according to seat sales, giving the feeling of a full event. We dont have that luxury so we can do what's best and close the rear and upgrade everyones tickets. I was wrapped because my silver ticket was in an area that would've normally been designated gold if a sell-out eventuated, meaning I was about 10 metres from the runway instead of 50m, which to me was a low ticket sales bonus in my favour.

As for the drugs and alcohol and being too loud for some, harden up! It goes hand in hand with rock and roll, and that's the way its been for decades.. All in all I had a great night and it was worth the full price of my silver pitch ticket, I have been to the Stones (x2), U2, Elton, Kiss (x2), and AC/DC and this show was right up there in the top 3. It's just a shame for future acts that this did not sell better. More accommodation will help, I just hope we haven't missed the boat!     

Aerosmith were awesome

Did you actually go, Nigel Benson? If so I suggest you get a new watch buddy, Aersomith performed for 2 solid hours, not 90 minutes,

Out of 20,000 people that attended you quote 1 person that had a poor experience. Needless to say going to a rock concert and not expecting people smoking and drinking would be like going to the library and not expecting to see books. Really polished performance and a solid 2 hours of entertainment.

Aerosmith rocked

I have to agree with the earlier comment that patrons should enjoy the concert instead of worrying about getting their next beverage! It happened during Paul Simon as well. Preload before or after support act, then settle in for the main act.

Yes it was loud - it's Stadium Rock !

I was there for all the bands and even in the Speight's stand you could easily get hearing damage for prolonged exposure. I've been using filter ear plugs for years at rock concerts and they shave off 15 db and you still hear everything!

Lets hope the 20,000+ attendance will encouage another rock act to venture this far south.

Aerosmith concert

I suppose that with any big event that happens in this city, you are always going to get the whingers and whiners. There is aways some people who are never quite satisfied and I feel sorry for them. I've been to many great live music shows over the years and this concert would have to be up there with the best of them, and I think that the majority of the thousands who were there would agree. Your reporting should actually reflect this instead of focusing on on any silly negative comments. Well done organisers. Let's get more big acts to come to Dunedin .

 

From Pine Hill

"Did anyone else think it was way too loud?" asks my2cents.
Outdoors removing leaves from a path in the late afternoon I could hear it as a loud roaring noise with a beat, like someone having a very loud party a few blocks away. When I realised it was either the concert or last minute sound checks I pitied those attending. 
If it were a place of work with such noise levels it would be shut down by OSH or the industrial health people till they had amended their machines to run at an acceptable level. 
Does it really have to be that loud to be enjoyed?  Sincere question - it's not my kind of music and I don't understand the attraction of pain-level noise of any kind, whether music or jack-hammers.

Aerosmith were great

Aerosmith were great! The sound wasn't perfect but good enough to enjoy. Too loud? It's a rock concert - it's supposed to be loud! And some people will always get stoned and drunk at concerts. No such problems on the stands where we were sitting.

The only problem we had was that we paid for the comfort of seats in the stands and had a constant stream of people from the ground coming up and down the isle beside us to go to the bar/toilet. This was extremely frustrating/annoying as they were crossing our view of the concert the whole time. This needs to be looked at, as it also created a safety issue with having the aisle constantly filled with drunk people dancing etc.

Otherwise Steven Tyler still has it, and the performance was awesome!

Aerosmith show

Just a comment on Ms Hill's concern over what she witnessed. A heavy rock band. One of the biggest of all time. Music born of alcohol, marijuana, sex, loud music. In two words, mainstream rock. You do not go to a heavy rock concert and get offended that cannabis cigarettes or cigarettes are being openly enjoyed. There are other things in life and this world that need to be outraged at. Pot at a rock performance is not one of them..

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