Four bins and black plastic rubbish bags go

Black plastic rubbish bags are on the way out with up to three new bins coming to homes in 2023.

The Dunedin City Council made the decision in anticipation of its current kerbside collection contract ending next year on June 30.

The current contract provides for collection of general waste in black rubbish bags with two recycling bins.

During deliberations on the 10-year plan yesterday councillors decided on supplying four bins to each property, with an optional extra 240-litre bin for garden waste at an additional cost.

A red-lidded wheelie bin of either 80 or 140 litres would replace the current black bags, and a new 23-litre bin for food scraps introduced.

The system would retain both the current yellow-lidded mixed recycling wheelie bin, with an option for either 80 or 240 litres, and the 45-litre blue tub for glass.

Food scraps would be collected weekly, with all other bins collected on a fortnightly basis.

The unsuccessful option presented was to only add one extra wheelie bin to replace black bags.

Cr Jim O’Malley said the four bin plus one option would help council reach its carbon neutral goal and allow it to "move back to controlling most of the household waste that comes from the city".

The system would not meet the requirements of every individual in the city, but would allow it to deal with the entire city’s waste in the best way, he said.

The two options presented were chosen in a January council meeting, but Cr Andrew Whiley said he now did not support them.

"I would have actually supported the status quo if I knew what I know now from the written submissions."

During the consultation process the council received 83 submissions that said there should be an incentive or subsidy for households that already composted or produced little waste.

A report on options for flat or targeted rates would be produced in time for the 2022/23 annual plan.

Councillor Steve Walker said although his household produced very little waste he was comfortable with contributing to the collective good of the city.

"I’m happy to support and pay for a system that makes it a little easier for everyone to be a little better at feeding into a circular economy and goals."

The new option was voted in 13-2, with Cr Whiley and Cr Vandervis voting against it.

The council received 2302 submissions on the issue with 42% supporting the chosen option, 32% supporting the unsuccessful alternative, 6% happy with either option and 20% supporting neither.

A new kerbside collection contract is expected to be awarded in February 2022.

The new system is targeting a mid-2023 launch allowing the successful supplier one year from the start of the new contract to prepare for it.

Councillors then voted for an additional motion instructing staff to collaborate with interested stakeholders when designing systems to process the new waste streams, consider alternative options for high density housing, and report progress back to the council.

andrew.marshall@odt.co.nz


 

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This is appalling. So, feedback from submissions: 43% supported the option they voted on, 58% did not support it, and a chunk of those folk, they wanted a different option. Their own feedback showed that none of the options they presented resonated with anyone. I have no extra room at my house for extra clutter from the council so these bins will stay in the street. I hope you're all going to enjoy paying an extra $300 on your rates!

Offset by a reduction in the money I pay to Envirowaste at present for their bin, so yes I'm ok with it thanks.

Any time there are more than two options on a survey you're not going to get a majority (>50%) response for any single option. 42% (not 43) is a huge amount when there were three options to choose from, and you also have to add the 6% "happy with either option" to that so it's actually 48% in favour of this option, with a further 32% - making 80% total! - supporting one of the two "increased number of bins" options.

In particular your "58% did not support it" is flat out incorrect given 6 of that 58 *did* in fact support it as well as the other presented option. 48 for/52 against is a massive margin for a poll that has three options - the numbers (which add to over 100 because of the 6% that favour both) were 48/38/20 - by far the *least* popular option was the people who disagreed with all presented options.

Nice try to skew the data though.

You're simply assuming 3 options means the submissions would split evenlyish among those choices, which is not a true assumption (Ask people to pick their favourite food from chocolate, brussel sprouts, or water and you'll see), and you are also interpreting the 6% ambivalent people as a yes, or counting them twice??. If we discount them we still have 42 supporting the option and 52 not supporting the option

The point is, is that no-one was enthralled enough by any of the options presented, and so in light of that, they picked their pet option instead.

So, food waste, general waste, garden waste can all go into the red lid bin, so I can retain my current 2 big bins and glass bin. Leaving any spare PLASTIC bin in the gutter.
Yeah, real carbon neutral you foolish virtue signalling councillors.
How long of doing this while using diesel to transport it all (which a huge percentage of our "recyclables" end up in our landfill as it is) is it going to take to offset the production of the bins alone, let alone everything else involved....
That's if you believe in this carbon, mmcc scam anyways (obviously I don't)

They would never understand this logic called common sense.

These extra bins and extra costs to ratepayers will achieve NOTHING unless arrangements are in place from day 1 to actually recycle the stuff.
But I can assure you these disposal measures are not in place and for some of the "recyclables" will not be for years to come.

Again, ratepayers paying for greens ideological moves unsupported by reality.

Dunedin: It's all smelly here.

I'm having a bit of a laugh at the comments above. Especially all those who didn't get their way with the particular bin system they would prefer.
Also those who point out that the final result was not supported by a majority of the submissions. So what?
The Councillors are elected to govern. It is their prerogative to make their decision based on their individual consciences. Some will be influenced by submissions, some by costs, some by impact on rates, some by environmental concerns, some possibly by their share holdings in companies making plastic bins and some, i'm sure, wouldn't know what they were doing or why and simply tossed a coin. That's the nature of representative democracy. You don't always get what you want.
Your solution is to vote for Councillors who reflect your values and standards. Think about who you vote for, don't just go with the known names and personalities or those who make the most noise. Take the trouble to find out which of the candidates has a brain and even more importantly, knows how to use it.
The remedy to your grievances is in your own hands.

But the decisions of the councillors should take note of feedback and common sense, though I agree that is in short supply. Unfortunately this lot only listen to themselves and consultants they have paid to reinforce their views.

Why?
Should, could, would!
Once elected they are not obligated by anything. Submissions on local body matters are a nonsense. Too many squeaky wheels looking for attention.

You are quite obviously new to Dunedin. The councillors are elected using the STV (single transferable vote). Which, coincidentally, is a lot like the way the councillors govern - the will of the majority doesn't matter. I think your characterisation of the councillors as being a "representative democracy" is wrong. Nepotism typically falls under the realm of an oligarchy, which is more aligned with the way they govern. We have no say over who gets elected, nor how they govern.

So I dont put banana skins down the gurgler so is it suppose to go in the green bin or the red lid bin?
Who wants a stinking food bin around there house?
Hope they have a lid because if we keep it outside in a semi rural setting all the animals who hunt will be at the bin.
Why didnt the council also add a hard waste collection available to homes eg The old lawn mower of the old oven can be picked up on a nominated day. Just need to look at cities like Melbourne for this example.
Our council really have no idea with the idiot green tinge to it.

50% increase in the number of pick-ups per fortnight (from 4 to 6). Great one- let us burn a few more thousand litres of diesel for the DCC. The number of back injuries will increase with people bending down for these tiny 23 litre bins. The rotting food scraps will be a gift for mice, rats, cats and dogs. Yum, especially as the new food bin seems open to the world (similar to the bottle bin per the picture). I am sure the gulls will be in on the act.

This is ridiculous. In the name of recycling we're producing tens of thousands more massive plastic bins. Are the bins recyclable for when the council change their mind again in 6 months?

Walker showed his true arrogant self when in the DCC meeting he asked the question if people could opt out of the food waste bin but not get a reduction in cost. or words to the affect, the answer was no it was basically put in the too hard basket, his response was his home will not be using it but doesn't care if he still has to pay for it. How is that looking after the people you work for? the Rate payers, shame on him and his arrogant statement I don't care about the cost well Walker not every body is in a position to pay for them, and yes it is possible not to change for bins, councils in Australia manage to do it. Shame on you

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