More attack details, terrorist's history revealed

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said seven people were injured in the terror attack at an Auckland supermarket yesterday and three people are still in a critical condition.

Police have tonight released the ages of the victims.

They are four women aged 29, 43, 60 and 66, and three men aged 53, 57 and 77.

Five people are in hospital - including the three critically hurt. Two people are recovering at home.

It had previously been reported that six people were injured.

The seventh victim was identified overnight. The person narrowly missed being stabbed by the terrorist but was injured by the knife, and self-treated at home.

The Prime Minister and Police Commissioner Andrew Coster gave a live update to media today.

Coster said there was nothing unusual about the subject's routine - travelling by train from Glen Eden to the New Lynn Countdown.

He arrived at 2:20pm at the supermarket and was shopping normally for about 10 minutes.

A timeline is being established from CCTV footage.

Coster said the man's actions yesterday even suggested he was planning for a future attack.

Long-term surveillance is very difficult, Coster said.

"Surveillance is different from a security detail."

"These are highly-trained specialists ... they are very good at what they do," Coster said of the teams who tracked the terrorist.

Coster said police responded within 60 seconds of people shouting. The attack started 60-90 seconds prior to that - so a total of up to two and a-half minutes elapsed between the stabbing beginning and the terrorist being shot by police.

All of the injuries suffered by the seven victims were due to the offender's actions, Coster understood.

Asked about the massive operation, involving 53 days and 30 officers, he said:

"That's our job. That's what we do."

The report says present Commissioner of Police Andrew Coster, appointed in April 2020, and his...
Commissioner of Police Andrew Coster. Photo: RNZ
Coster added he was confident they did everything they could.

They can't be standing next to them or passing them every 30 seconds, Coster said of surveillance staff.

Coster said there was a small number of these trained staff for surveillance.

"This response was fast. A motivated attacker is going to be hard to manage, and that's been demonstrated many times."

The terrorist was using counter-surveillance members, he had challenged members of the public if they were tailing them.

Asked whether it was usual for a surveillance team to be armed, Coster said it wasn't appropriate to discuss it.

Coster said the officers shot to incapacitate.

"We don't execute. What we do is remove the threat."

Asked about the people in similar situations as this man, Ardern said it was important legislation to fix so all the tools to address those people were available.

There are very few people that would fit into this category similar to the man, Ardern said.

'High level of paranoia'

He said the subject displayed a "high level of paranoia".

"We have had no legal grounds to detain this subject," Coster said.

He said police staff acted in the way expected of them.

He acknowledged the first aid given to the victims by professionals and members of the public.

Surveillance staff were not able to move around the supermarket with the man because of the Covid outbreak in Auckland, Coster said. They waited at the entrance.

A trained paramedic played a key role in giving treatment. One member of the public had advanced level of first aid training.

He recognised the staff at the supermarket will be shocked and police will be visible in the coming days.

Asked whether the person knew if they were being tailed, Coster said there were two options, either it was planned or opportunistic. Coster said we may never know; however, he said the man was highly conscious of surveillance.

The scene examination was still under way. CCTV footage showed him taking a kitchen knife off the shelf and using it. Coster said nothing suggested to him that any other weapons were used.

Coster said the officers had acted in "exactly the way we would have expected them to".

While there were many people with concerning ideologies, Coster said there were few who reached this level of concern.

The terrorism threat level remains at medium, he said.

"Cases of this type are highly unusual," Coster said.

Police would be conducting more visible patrols around supermarkets.

‘‘S’’ came to the attention of New Zealand police after posting ‘‘staunchly anti-Western and...
‘‘S’’ came to the attention of New Zealand police after posting ‘‘staunchly anti-Western and violent’’ posts on his social media accounts. PHOTO: SUPPLIED

"I have no doubt the first aid rendered has made a very significant difference for the victims in this case."

Coster said a lot of misinformation had spread in the community. This case is an outlier and no one else was being looked for in relation to the event.

Events like this can bring out disturbing attitudes from a few people, Coster said, and police would be visible over coming days.

"This incident should not give rise to undue concern amongst the public."

Ardern said work had been done by Crown law to release more information. However, the court has given the family a 24-hour window before that.

There are details relating to the man's immigration which she cannot share yet, along with his name although she had not intended to publicise their name.

The terrorist's history in NZ

The man arrived in NZ in October 2011, 22 years old and travelling on student visa.

His "extreme" views were not known at the time he arrived.

He was arrested in May 2017 at Auckland Airport where it was believed he was heading to Syria.

He was released on bail after being arrested on multiple charges.

In September 2018, he was sentenced to 12 months' supervision on the initial charges.

That same month, ministers were briefed on work to be done on counter terrorism legislation.

In July 2020, the Crown was unsuccessful in laying another charge on the knife purchase and objectionable material.

He also assaulted Corrections officers and faced charges on this.

Officials met a number of times to address the risk posed by this man, with concern over reducing legal ability to do this.

Work on his immigration status was underway at this point, more details were expected tomorrow.

On July 6, he was sentenced to 12 months' supervision.

He was required to attend rehabilitation. GPS monitoring was sought but not successful.

"Throughout this period officials met a number of times to consider what avenues could be pursued to address the risk posed by this individual and to prepare for the potential that we may run out of legal avenues to detain him," Ardern said earlier this year.

Ardern says she hopes to share more detail with the public tomorrow. That will be dependent on legal suppressions currently in place being lifted.

Police worked alongside NZ SIS, Ardern said. Police identified that he could be arrested without a warrant.

In July, he was released into community and surveillance started. Ardern was given an update in late July.

"I was briefed on this particular work in May 2021. I sought further advice on whether provincial orders could be used," she said, but was later told that they couldn't be used, nor had the man had a psychological assessment.

In late August, Coster and others raised the issue of holes in the counter-terrorism legislation.

The IPCA and Coroner will be an important part of this work going forward with this case, she said.

As soon as Parliament resumes, Ardern said no later by the end of this month, holes in the counter-terrorism legislation would be addressed.

We owe it to everyone to have other people look at this case "to see if any more could have been done", Ardern said.

Ardern said the police were tireless and had been told up to 30 people had been involved in the operation

To Auckland, she said times are tough but we are all with you.

She said the Counter-Terrorism Legislation Bill will be passed by the end of the month, and she thanked National leader Judith Collins for her support to use urgency to pass the bill.

Ardern quoted the Imam of Christchurch's Al Noor mosque, saying we stand for peace and love, not hate.

Asked whether the law had failed NZers, Ardern said every avenue was utilised and when it wasn't possible for him to be detained, heavy surveillance was used.

However, she said it was incredibly tough when it was a lone actor.

Was terrorist radicalised in NZ?

Asked on his radicalisation, Ardern said she didn't know how that occurred. However, she said 2016 was the first time officials saw the man publishing problematic content.

"That was yesterday, the same day the attack happened," Ardern said.

Successive Governments did not progress this work, we did, she said.

He was charged with objectionable material and possession of a knife, but it was no longer viable to keep him in prison for these things which is when police stepped in with heavy surveillance.

Asked whether there was an opportunity to appeal against any of the sentences, Coster emphasised all legal avenues were looked at.

Ardern said she didn't have any information on a court-ordered psychological assessment. However, she said she had been seeking information on whether the man could have been sectioned.

Coster said it was fair to say the man had been "uncooperative" to address his behaviour.

Nothing had occurred to give a legal ground to intervene in any other way that police did, Coster said.

The first step to intervene was understanding of intent but that wasn't enough for enforcement action.

Ardern said the man could have been detained for longer but wasn't. That was because of the level of offending he was charged with possession of objectionable material and possession of a knife. This pointed to the complexity of the legal situation as it applied to the man. She said 2018 was the first time the gap in the legislation was raised with her

Asked about a Herald story that revealed his past, Coster said he couldn't point to any one particular event, saying police had been worried about him for some time. His actions yesterday led officers to believe he was following a normal routine.

On victims, Ardern said there was no information the man was targeting anyone in particular.

With extra police presence around the relevant supermarket, Coster said scene examination was still underway and officers would be providing extra visibility to reassure the public of their safety.

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